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Date:      Wed, 15 May 2002 21:19:22 -0700
From:      Robert Clark <res03db2@gte.net>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1021937567.3082d8@mired.org>
Cc:        Nils Holland <nils@daemon.tisys.org>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The road ahead?
Message-ID:  <20020515211922.J1282@darkstar.gte.net>
In-Reply-To: <15586.61471.456290.764885@guru.mired.org>; from mwm-dated-1021937567.3082d8@mired.org on Wed, May 15, 2002 at 06:32:47PM -0500
References:  <20020516004909.A9808@daemon.tisys.org> <15586.61471.456290.764885@guru.mired.org>

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On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 06:32:47PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
> In <20020516004909.A9808@daemon.tisys.org>, Nils Holland <nils@daemon.tisys.org> typed:
> > Of course, one could say that new technological inventations are made at a
> > faster pace than ever before - but I guess this is only half of the truth:
> > For the ordinary Joe, DOS turning into Windows 3.1, Windows 3.1 turning
> > into Windows 95, and so on, was a real revolution. What seems to be
> > invented these days seems to be only toys, no more revolutions! Does the
> > new Fisher Price look in Windows XP make computers easier to use or people
> > more productive, just like the switch from DOS to graphical Windows did for
> > ordinary users? I guess not. And then - what else is "new" these days? Some
> > folks would see the ability to talk to your computer as the next big
> > revolution (which is partly already possible), but I fear that I have to
> > say that talking would actually slow folks down, compared to having them
> > enter commands or use the mouse within a GUI. So, another toy, but nothing
> > new!
> 
> You just committed a logical fallacy. You correctly point out that
> GUIs made computers easier to use or people more productive, then dis
> talking to the computer because it's *slower* than a GUI. Speed isn't
> everything, and I'll argue tha GUIs make people *slower*, at least at
> some tasks. See <URL:
> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/papers/windowing.html > for a comparison
> of a typical GUI window manager with a keyboard-driven one. GUIs
> provide other advantages such that most people aren't willing to drop
> them in favor of something faster.
> 

Different tools for different jobs. You can pound nails with a pipe wrench,
but it isn't elegant.

> The real question about an AUI(tm) - Audio User Interface, pronounced
> owi - is whether or not it will make people more productive or
> computers easier to use, and do so to an extent that it being slower
> is irrelevant.
> 

(IMO) Pen based PDAs are just so much crap. If people will throw all
that money at such inelegant crap, there has to be a market for a well
thought out speech based device. If for no other reason than it would
sell well with the illiterate.

Everything about audio is cheap.

Crank out a copy of Palm, and call it Speak, and the market is wide open.

> > Bottom line (and at this point I really want to stop wasting your bandwidth
> > and precious time): I guess that looking at the computer and electronics
> > company, "all the good ones are taken" or "everything that can (sanely) be
> > done has been done". Of course, the future may bring the one or the other
> > new interesting development, but I don't see many real revolutions anymore,
> > as we seem to have reached a point where going any further does no longer
> > provide any increased benefit.
> 
> If I knew what the next great computer revolution was going to be, I'd
> be looking for investors, not reading freebsd-chat. I suspect the same
> is true for most everyone here. I will say that it probably already
> exists. The internet existed in the mid 70s, but didn't hit the
> popular conscious until the mid 90s. Identifying it, that's the hard
> part. We geeks aren't likely to do so, because we have such poor
> perception of what jane sixpack really wants.
> 

When I'm in a meeting, and my cellphone rings, why doesn't a voice answer
the call and say, "Mr Clark is in a meeting, but he is will take your
call in a few seconds.", as I'm leaving to take the call in the hallway
where my voice won't disturb people?

In a market where everyone is falling over each other to bring out WAP,
why don't good features ever show up?


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