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Date:      Wed, 22 May 2002 09:42:36 +0400
From:      "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org>
Cc:        bts@babbleon.org, kris@obsecurity.org, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, portmgr@FreeBSD.ORG, core@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: My position on commiters guide 10.4.4
Message-ID:  <20020522054234.GB93907@nagual.pp.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20020521.233026.111454472.imp@village.org>
References:  <20020522041150.GA92851@nagual.pp.ru> <20020522044853.92549BB29@i8k.babbleon.org> <20020522050301.GA93570@nagual.pp.ru> <20020521.233026.111454472.imp@village.org>

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On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 23:30:26 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> Actually, the historical risk of trojan distributions is much higher
> for the same version.  The reason that a hacker would prefer that to a
> new version is that a new version is more likely to noticed than
> silently replacing an old version.  There have been several incidents
> of this type.  It is these sorts of incidents that caused the rules to
> be put into place.

I know about such facts, but do you have any real statistics comparing 
this two variants?
When version with _new_ number will appearse, much more people will want 
to download/install it then with old version many of them already have.

> addresses the security concerns.  If there's a real reason to update
> the port, then running a diff between the two versions shouldn't be a
> huge deal.  You'll need to fetch the new version of the tar.gz file

It very depends on port size / amount of files. Consider huge port like 
XFree86. Or do we apply 10.4.4 to small ports only?

> An alternative way of dealing with this might be to contact the author
> of the port that did the update to confirm that there was a new
> version created by him and that it was legit.

Do you try it f.e. few times? It is not so easy as it sounds. Developers 
tends to ignore even some functionlaity patches, not say purist 
non-functional requests to update number.

-- 
Andrey A. Chernov
http://ache.pp.ru/

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