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Date:      Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:44:17 +1000
From:      Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Andreas Koch <koch@eis.cs.tu-bs.de>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 4.6-RC: Glacial speed of dump backups
Message-ID:  <20020725164416.A52778@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <200207221943.g6MJhIBX054785@apollo.backplane.com>; from dillon@apollo.backplane.com on Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 12:43:18PM -0700
References:  <20020606204948.GA4540@ultra4.eis.cs.tu-bs.de> <20020722081614.E367@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20020722100408.GP26095@ultra4.eis.cs.tu-bs.de> <200207221943.g6MJhIBX054785@apollo.backplane.com>

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On 2002-Jul-22 12:43:18 -0700, Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> wrote:
>Here are the preliminary results when I test this dumping /usr
>to /dev/null:
>
> DUMP: finished in 140 seconds, throughput 6413 KBytes/sec  (8 MB cache)
> DUMP: finished in 144 seconds, throughput 6235 KBytes/sec  (4 MB cache)
> DUMP: finished in 234 seconds, throughput 3836 KBytes/sec  (0 MB cache)

I've also done some testing of your 2nd patchset with mixed results.
In all cases, I'm dumping /usr, though it has different contents on
each system.  I've included the relevant probe messages and a 'df -ki'.
The first two systems were in multi-user but otherwise idle.  The 3rd
system is doing a fair amount of network-related processing but has
no local disk activity.

System 1: A Compaq Armada 1592DT running -STABLE from early this week.
CPU: Pentium/P55C (quarter-micron) (233.87-MHz 586-class CPU)
real memory  = 100663296 (98304K bytes)
atapci0: <Generic PCI ATA controller> port 0x1000-0x100f at device 20.0 on pci0
atapci0: Busmastering DMA not supported
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ad0: 3102MB <IBM-DYKA-23240> [6304/16/63] at ata0-master BIOSPIO
acd0: CDROM <UJDA120> at ata0-slave BIOSPIO

/dev/ad0s1f   2818735 2537867 55370    98%  216823 138119   61%   /usr

/usr contains XF86 3.3.6, a copy of the CVS repository and a checked
out -stable tree as well as a built kernel, but nothing else in /usr/obj

  DUMP: finished in 4298 seconds, throughput 633 KBytes/sec  /sbin/dump
  DUMP: finished in 4304 seconds, throughput 632 KBytes/sec  dump -C 0
  DUMP: finished in 4855 seconds, throughput 560 KBytes/sec  dump -C 4
  DUMP: finished in 4477 seconds, throughput 607 KBytes/sec  dump -C 8

System 2: A Dell GXi running 4.4-STABLE from mid December 2001.
CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.95-MHz 586-class CPU)
real memory  = 100663296 (98304K bytes)
atapci0: <Intel PIIX3 ATA controller> port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ad0: 2014MB <WDC AC22100H> [4092/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2
ad1: 1040MB <M1614TA> [2114/16/63] at ata0-slave WDMA2

/dev/ad0s1f    1562414   279462  1157960    19%   12007  183831     6%   /usr

/usr is a pretty basic -STABLE.  No sources or X but a couple of ports.

  DUMP: finished in 421 seconds, throughput 685 KBytes/sec
  DUMP: finished in 423 seconds, throughput 681 KBytes/sec
  DUMP: finished in 234 seconds, throughput 1232 KBytes/sec
  DUMP: finished in 229 seconds, throughput 1259 KBytes/sec

System 3: A Compaq Proliant P1850R running a 4.6-PRERELEASE from mid-May.
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (598.17-MHz 686-class CPU)
real memory  = 134201344 (131056K bytes)
sym0: <875> port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xc6aff000-0xc6afffff,0xc6afaf00-0xc6afafff irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci0
sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking
da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <COMPAQ BB00911CA0 3B07> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 8678MB (17773524 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)

/dev/da0s1f   8298907 7568247 66748    99%  530481 851917   38%   /usr

/usr contains lots and lots of assorted small files.

  DUMP: finished in 6739 seconds, throughput 1189 KBytes/sec
  DUMP: finished in 6724 seconds, throughput 1192 KBytes/sec
  DUMP: finished in 6535 seconds, throughput 1226 KBytes/sec


Overall, the caching doesn't seem to help on either my laptop or the
Proliant server.  In the case of the laptop, I presume the cost of
PIO'ing the data from a fairly slow disk into the cache outweighs the
gains from the improved access pattern.  I have no idea why the
Proliant performs so badly - systat shows that the disk is averaging
about 7MB/sec so it looks like the problem is that the cache is too
small.  I've tried upping the cache to 64MB but dump then hangs in
pass III.

Peter


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