Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:33:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <20020829191145.E37029-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <3D6EA0D1.BC94AE8D@mindspring.com>
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: > > > One's definition of many words is governed by that. That won't > > > make them into the consensus definition. > > > > On the other hand, the question arises, what makes the consensus > > definition correct? > > The inability to communicate otherwise. 8-). Okay. <g> > > > [ ... "Creation Science" ... ] > > > is not actually a science, because it violates the first principles > > > of science. > > > > Correction: it violates the first principles of science as defined by > > naturalists, not science as defined by creationists. See, it's all > > worldviews. Contrast "evolutionary" science with "creation" science. > > Why does one qualify as "science" while the other does not? Do they > > not both bring philosophical baggage to the table? Is it even possible > > to step outside one's worldview to evaluate the evidence? Is not the > > way one evaluates the evidence conditioned by one's philosophical > > prejudices? Is there some independent criteria for judging between > > the two that is not arbitrary? > > Yes. Starting from first principles, can you build a working > light bulb? Seems a bit arbitrary to me, besides the fact that both are likely to claim to be able to do this. However, let's talk about those first principles. What if the reason that both can build useful things such as lightbulbs is that one of the two options is relying on concepts which only make sense given the other's worldview, and in fact is borrowing those concepts from that other worldview? Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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