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Date:      Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:55:11 +1030
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Len Conrad <LConrad@Go2France.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What are the SMTP rules for sending mail to FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <20021229002511.GD92510@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20021228111607.0243f108@mail.go2france.com>
References:  <3E0DBCFC.5040907@quadtelecom.com> <5.1.1.6.2.20021228111607.0243f108@mail.go2france.com>

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On Saturday, 28 December 2002 at 11:27:53 -0600, Len Conrad wrote:
>
>> Easier said than done.  I've been assigned 66.45.116.136/29 by the ISP.
>
> .136 is not a power of 2 which is required for classless reverse
> delegation.

They don't need to be powers of 2.

> It should be .132/29 or .140/29

No, they're not powers of 2 either.  The requirement for a /29 is that
the last 3 bits of the binary representation be 0.  Valid values in
this area are 128, 136 and 144.

>> I control DNS for quadtelecom.com, but I don't control the reverse
>> lookup.  I'd like to know the exact algorithm in use, so that I can
>> negotiate with my ISP.
>
> For sub-Class C delegation, see the DNS & BIND book, 4th edition.
>
> <snip>

I think the real problem here is that Harry's ISP is too clueless to
handle reverse delegation.  Another possibility is that they
deliberately don't allocate a reverse address in order to stop him
from sending mail directly; if they relay via their mail server (which
appears to be mail.steelcityhosting.com, 66.45.117.3).

For more information, take a look at the following, which is a message
I send to systems which appear to be bona fide attempts from broken
reverse addresses.  Looking at the name of the sender, I'm sure this
one is not bona fide, and I didn't really send the message.  Most of
my double bounces come from spammers.

Greg

--------------------

PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE.  It contains important information about
problems at your site.  It is machine generated, but it is intended to
be intelligible.

The attached message is caused by a misconfiguration of your DNS
server: your mail server 65.60.8.2 claims to be
localhost.localdomain, which does not resolve.

As an anti-spam measure, we require reverse lookups for all mail we
accept.  This message will not be delivered unless you correct your
DNS configuration.

Since this situation has continued for a considerable period of time,
we must assume that it is not a transient problem.

If you believe this assessment is incorrect, or if you need help
resolving the problem, please contact me by phone at +61-8-8388-8286
between 9 am and 6 pm Central Australian time (currently GMT+1030).

*******************************************************************

antivirus2003@crucialoffers.com, you have been copied on this message because
we have reasonable grounds to believe that you are not aware of these
problems, and that you have entrusted localdomain to deliver your mail for
you.  This message is an indication that localdomain is not perfoming this
task correctly.  If the situation continues, you should contact
localdomain support and get them to rectify the problem.

Greg Lehey

> From double-bounce@lemis.com  Thu Dec 26 15:50:55 2002
> Return-Path: <double-bounce@lemis.com>
> Delivered-To: grog@FreeBSD.org
> Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix)
>       id CD3025194A; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:50:55 +1030 (CST)
> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:50:55 +1030 (CST)
> From: MAILER-DAEMON@lemis.com (Mail Delivery System)
> To: postmaster@lemis.com (Postmaster)
> Subject: Postfix SMTP server: errors from unknown[65.60.8.2]
> Message-Id: <20021226052055.CD3025194A@wantadilla.lemis.com>
> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0
>       tests=MAILER_DAEMON,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01
>       version=2.41
> X-Spam-Level: *
>
> Transcript of session follows.
>
>  Out: 220 wantadilla.lemis.com ESMTP Postfix
>  In:  HELO localhost.localdomain
>  Out: 250 wantadilla.lemis.com
>  In:  MAIL FROM: <antivirus2003@crucialoffers.com>
>  Out: 250 Ok
>  In:  RCPT TO: <grog@FreeBSD.org>
>  Out: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [65.60.8.2]
>
> Session aborted, reason: lost connection

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