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Date:      Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:49:31 -0600
From:      Pete Fritchman <petef@absolutbsd.org>
To:        "Pedro F. Giffuni" <giffunip@yahoo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: comments/suggestions on the ports system
Message-ID:  <20030127184931.GA82213@absolutbsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20030127165720.29781.qmail@web13405.mail.yahoo.com>
References:  <20030127165720.29781.qmail@web13405.mail.yahoo.com>

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++ 27/01/03 17:57 +0100 - Pedro F. Giffuni:
| 1) I did a DOS installation and found that my system
| wanted to install some packages, but I didn't know
| which so I had to reboot and copy all I could to the
| HD. XFree86 was of course the first but it also needed
| imake so it soon became a mess, not to mention the HD
| memory requirements.

Not quite sure what you mean here.

| 2) I like it that we now install XFree86 from the
| package, but unfortunately the package is not fully
| integrated and configuring it causes pain (the
| configure utility expects to write /etc/X11/XF86Config
| or /usr/X11/etc/XF86Config and these directories don't
| exist).  I concluded the best solution for this would
| be to set X11BASE=/usr/X11/ by default in the ports
| tree: changing all the ocurrences of this to
| /usr/X11R6 would be a nonsense and besides the ports
| tree should be perfectly prepared for this type of
| change.

According to /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist, /etc/X11 is there by default (and
that's the behavior I have noticed).

| 3) The ports tree has grown too much and it's not
| practical to download all the tree to submit just one
| or two ports. I propose that it is divided in several
| packages:
| ports-base
| ports-devel
| ports-math
| ports-cad
| etc... and a ports metapackage. This would not be a
| complete solution, but combined with cvsweb it would
| make the ports system usable again (for me).

CVSup is split up like that already; see
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile for details.

| 4) KDE, GNOME and the related Qt and GTK apps have
| grown a lot should be in a different CD, giving the
| priority in the first CD for console applications.
| mtools should always be in the first CD.  

I don't think the focus needs to be shifted to "console" or "X"
applications one way or the other, just the most popular ones.  I would
guess a large majority of our desktop users find it really convenient to
have their preferred desktop environment on the first CD.

--pete


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