Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:08:25 -0500 From: Mikhail Teterin <mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: legitimacy of core (Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object) Message-ID: <200302052108.25303.mi%2Bmx@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20030205174625.029e7ee0@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030205161539.028acab0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030205174625.029e7ee0@localhost>
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[CC trimmed further] On Wednesday 05 February 2003 07:48 pm, Brett Glass wrote: = At 05:25 PM 2/5/2003, Mikhail Teterin wrote: = = >Even you don't appear to realize, that the president of the USA is = >NEVER chosen by popular vote -- by design. Now, that you've conceded, that the popular vote was not supposed to affect the choice of president, you should apologise for your attempt to mislead your audience into thinking, it was :-) = Nor should the president be chosen by the Supreme Court. Better that than a lot of other possibilities. (Ivory Coast? Venezuella?) But he was not anyway... The question boiled down to: "What to do, if one side's win over the other is smaller than the poll's margin of error?" Accept the result anyway? Re-count? Leave it to the state's government (and to which branch of it) to decide? Re-vote? Fight it out on the streets? What does the Florida and the US Federal law say on this subject, and what are the precedents, if any -- that was the question in front of the Supreme Court -- perfectly within their domain. Not: "Who do the nine of us think, should be the President?" They rendered their judgement, and I have no grounds to dispute it. Neither do you, apparently, but you are bitter, because you rooted for the other guy. Much the same, I also have little reason not to trust core, when all of them claim, Matt can be impossible to deal with, even though it seems to me, our tolerance should consider one's brilliance more. But then, again, I personally have never seen the alleged "dark side of Matt"... If you like ancient history, you can consider the core vs. Matt in parallel with Roman Senate vs. <any prominent individual here>. While the individual was usually more brilliant than most of the senators, and in times of big troubles (such as a dangerous foreign invasion, or VM instability in the most recent release) would even be appointed as the Dictator, collectively the Senate was better than any individual, who -- in contemporary terms -- "would not scale". That's why, IMHO, Rome eventually took over all of its neighbours, who were governed by either kings or democracies. Carthagen was neither and caused Romans the most troubles, BTW. And that is why, IMHO, it declined after itself switching to monarchy :-\, although the Christianity, probably, played a role too (ducks)... (To continue the parallel, what little I know about OpenBSD lets me consider it as a monarchy, while FreeBSD is a republic. There are advantages to both, although I prefer the republic when I play Civilization (-; ). Matt's story is not unlike that of some prominent Romans, who were expelled or otherwise punished for disrespecting the common norms later in life, however thankful Rome was (or had to be) to them for their past contributions. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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