Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 18:12:18 -0600 (MDT) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> To: phk@phk.freebsd.dk Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADSUP: ibcs2 and svr4 compat headed for history Message-ID: <20040626.181218.21873777.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <3949.1088292437@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <20040626231221.GA11573@dragon.nuxi.com> <3949.1088292437@critter.freebsd.dk>
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"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
: In message <20040626231221.GA11573@dragon.nuxi.com>, "David O'Brien" writes:
: >On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 12:08:36PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
: >> In message <20040626100116.GK7457@wantadilla.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey"
: >> writes:
: >>
: >> >Has this been approved of by the core team or any other official organ
: >> >of the project?
: >>
: >> I got a "good riddance" from re@ (scottl)
: >
: >That isn't sufficient. Please run thru the TRB or Core also.
: >The two of you cannot unilaterally decide to axe large subsystems.
:
: Why do you think that a HEADSUP was sent to current@ David ?
:
: Presumably you belive I did that to try to sneak this decision past
: your highly sentitive nose, the bulk of the committers, our most
: active users, the core team, the TRB, UN peace-keeping forces, and
: Lloyds Register ?
Sarcasm doesn't help your case, and paints you as a 'cowboy'.
: Or could it be, just by chance, that I recognized that nobody on
: core (or the TRB) would have enough information to answer the very
: simple question: "Is there a significant use of these bits which
: we are currently unaware off ?", and therefore decided to poll a
: larger audience ?
Polling a larger audience is a necessary step in removing the bits.
It may not be sufficient, however. One large user could veto this
removal if core@ thought it important to keep that user happy, for
example.
: (If you answer this correctly David, you win a little yellow rubber
: mat you can stomp on next time you get upset about somebody not
: "following procedures")
Actually, there are good reasons to follow those proceedures. You'll
get a lot less flack from people when you do.
: If somebody wants to pull the bits into a port and maintain it there
: I have absolutely no problems with them doing that.
I think this would be an excellent idea. Does anybody care enough to
do this? I'd do it, but I have no way to test it, nor any luck in the
past making it work. Also, if no one can be bothered to do it the
first time, I doubt anyone would maintain it going forward.
I will be happy to commit it for someone that does the footwork and
says they will maintain it.
Warner
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