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Date:      Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:22:59 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
To:        eta@lclark.edu
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: X.org, firefox, and bitstream-vera
Message-ID:  <20040818202259.GG16055@ip.net.ua>
In-Reply-To: <1092858808.899.22.camel@leguin>
References:  <20040818095933.GA67190@ip.net.ua> <1092858808.899.22.camel@leguin>

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On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 12:53:29PM -0700, Eric Anholt wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 02:59, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > Hi Eric,
> >=20
> > Last Saturday, I've upgraded all of my ports on my 5.2-CURRENT
> > notebook, including switching to X.org.  Everything went fine,
> > except I now get insane large fonts when browsing www.FreeBSD.org,
> > for example.  I tracked it down to the bitstream-vera port which
> > is a runtime dependency of the x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype.
> > I was wondering, is there any real need for this dependency?
>=20
> bitstream-vera has been part of the X distribution since XFree86 4.3.0.=
=20
> Instead of using the distribution-supplied bits (which should be exactly
> the same), I used our existing port.  You're the second person to report
> this issue with www.freebsd.org and bitstream-vera, but it's also what I
> use and I don't see any problems.  Not sure what to say here.
>=20
bitstream-vera is not installed with the XFree86 meta-port,
the fact that it's installed with the xorg meta-port is the
change in behavior.  My setup is very plain and standard.
On a 4.x machine, I have XFree86-4.4.0,1 (no bitstream-vera).
On a 5.x machine, I have xorg-6.7.0_1 (with bitstream-vera).
I also have the following fonts installed, on both machines:

cyr-rfx-koi8-o-1.1
mozilla-fonts-1.0_1
webfonts-0.21_1

On 4.x, I get the English and Russian versions of the FreeBSD
website displayed in a similarly sized font.  On 5.x with
bitstream-vera, Russian version is still displayed with the
same "normal" (in my definition of normal) sized font, while
the English version is rendered by enlarged font from the
bitstream-vera collection.  When I remove bitstream-vera,
everything is back to normal.

Can you do this for me?  Please visit the www.FreeBSD.org's
main page, visually remember the font size, then temporarily
move /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera to another
directory so it's not found by fontconfig, restart X and
browser (I'm using firefox) and visit the page again.  Can
you see the difference in the size?

Sorry in advance for saying this, but without bitstream-vera,
it looks more "like in Windows", too.  ;)


Cheers,
--=20
Ruslan Ermilov
ru@FreeBSD.org
FreeBSD committer

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