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Date:      Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:43:25 +0000
From:      Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com>
To:        gemini@sicilia.mv.com
Cc:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: (4.9-stable) Outgoing ppp through Shiva Lanrover
Message-ID:  <20051110124325.GA67086@uk.tiscali.com>
In-Reply-To: <20051109184334.D7F9043D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20051109184334.D7F9043D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org>

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On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 01:41:38PM -0500, gemini@sicilia.mv.com wrote:
>     I would highly prefer to handle this dial-out ppp with a shared
> Shiva Lanrover 8e terminal/modem server (firmware 4.54)
>     On the lan side, the Shiva is able to handle both tcpip and ipx
> connections. It is able to initiate and handle an outgoing ppp modem
> connection using it's "lan-to-lan connect" feature. This partly works.
> 
> The problems are that
> (1) The Shiva is not a router, it only bridges. Everything on the
>     lan-side goes straight through with no NAT.

The Shiva Lanrover I used a couple of years ago was most definitely a
router. It had three LAN interfaces, plus serial PPP for backup. I don't
remember the model number, but it was sold as a firewall / VPN termination
device.

It definitely did NAT too - the 'inside' and 'dmz' networks we had were on
10.x.x.x addresses, but the outside on public IPs.

Sorry this doesn't help you much, but it might be worth looking into the
documentation a bit more just to make sure.

Incidentally, the difference between a bridge and a router is not to do with
NAT. If your Shiva is a router (which I think it probably is), then the
packets will still be forwarded to your ISP with the source IP address
unchanged, unless NAT is configured.

You can of course just do a direct PPP dialup from your FreeBSD box, which
will solve the problem.

Regards,

Brian.



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