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Date:      Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:28:35 -0300
From:      JoaoBR <joao@matik.com.br>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: amd64 slower than i386 on identical AMD 64 system?
Message-ID:  <200603151728.35620.joao@matik.com.br>
In-Reply-To: <20060315184606.GA85629@xor.obsecurity.org>
References:  <200603140740.38388.joao@matik.com.br> <200603150601.26135.joao@matik.com.br> <20060315184606.GA85629@xor.obsecurity.org>

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On Wednesday 15 March 2006 15:46, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>
> OK.  Just as a general point of common sense: when you find things
> that aren't enabled by default, there's almost always a good reason
> for this.
>
> Sometimes the reason is clear (driver conflicts with another driver,
> etc), but for secret poorly-documented options that change kernel
> behaviour it should ring warning bells that it might not be a good
> idea to just set and forget.
>

as well may exist good reason to check them out, if nobody checks this thin=
gs=20
we never know about, right?

preemption and ipi_preemption are good theories (seems to me) and things li=
ke=20
that are worth to be tried even knowing that they are in early stage

anyway I am not blaming somebody nor the OS for anything instead I tried to=
=20
exchange experiences in first place.

>
> And above in the quoted text you said bad performance, so who knows
> what settings you had then :-) Maybe you're blaming something on
> polling that is really the fault of ULE.
>

ok but I am not that stupid to try a prototype scheduler and then blaming i=
t=20
for my mess

>
> It really sounds like it could be a broken BIOS on your system (check
> for upgrades).  AFAIK, dual-core systems are not known to have these
> problems in general.
>

well, that was my first thought too but makes no sense if the same happens =
on=20
several different brands, anyway I checked and tested different bios versio=
ns=20
on any board because the thing is important to me, I can not migrate 500=20
servers having this problem=20

also it is clearly X2 processor related since it doesn't appear when using =
a=20
normal athlon64, then you may say ACPI is to blame what could be the case o=
f=20
Asus or Abit but the EPOX ACPI is very clean and appearently error free

My guess here is the shared memory access when running X2-SMP=20


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