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Date:      Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:56:15 +0200
From:      Nick Hibma <nick@van-laarhoven.org>
To:        Robert Noland <rnoland@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing List <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Reducing noise in dmesg output
Message-ID:  <200909021656.15747.nick@van-laarhoven.org>
In-Reply-To: <1251841416.1689.4458.camel@balrog.2hip.net>
References:  <200909010931.16880.nick@van-laarhoven.org> <1251841416.1689.4458.camel@balrog.2hip.net>

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> What is irrelevant is subjective...  I mean does the average user really
> need to see anything in dmesg?  Please don't change agp_i810.c.  A
> verbose boot is incredibly noisy and rarely needed for debugging
> anything except the most deep rooted of issues.

Please state arguments instead of this 'I think it is useful'. That's not 
going to cut it. If you feel strongly about the info that is being produced, 
an option would be to produce a (tested!) patch that combines more 
information on one line as a compromise.

FreeBSD has historically been producing very limited output on dmesg. Linux 
is very noisy (ever noticed the copyright notices right in the middle of 
your list of PCI devices?). Even they have decided that they should hide 
this behind coloured 'ok/failed' texts in some distributions.

FreeBSD has slowly been producing more and more output (most notably the USB 
subsystem up to 7.x) and I am intending to remove that clutter again, or at 
least compress it.

Being swamped with information reduces its value rather than increase it.

Nick



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