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Date:      Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:51:40 -0600
From:      Programmer in Training <pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: concerning flash under freebsd
Message-ID:  <20100617035140.x8bpf02348g4o8ok@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>
In-Reply-To: <20100617081156.8441dc67.freebsd@edvax.de>
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Quoting Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>:

> As much as I am now a no-user of "Flash", allow me the
> following comments.
>
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:49:56 -0600, Programmer in Training  =20
> <pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> wrote:
>> Almost all Internet video
>> has moved to flash as well (such as all the sermons on sermons.net
>> which my church uses).
>
> That's all within transition. Currently, big video portals are
> moving to HTML5, often including the wish to also use free and
> open standards for their videos so they can access a bigger

That's a no-go, I have it on good authority that h.264 was chosen over =20
Theora. That along with mpeg-la having put out a press release saying =20
it won't charge royalties for "free" uses of some of it's patents =20
several months ago[0], while I would love for Theora to have won out =20
as the standard, once again corporate interest (this time a big push =20
from Apple, from what I understand) has won out.

> audience. Keeping things in "Flash" is a no-go. A main problem
> of "Flash" is that is isn't compatible with the upcoming trend
> to move to portable devices. Only HTML5 and compliant browsers
> will be present on those platforms, and those who keep their
> sites in "Flash" will be out of scope soon.

I've only seen some examples of HTML5 sites. My own reluctance to =20
start coding with it is the fact that it's still open to tons of change.

> HTML5 will be the future; "Flash" already is the past. Soon,
> it won't be important anymore. Conforming to standards will
> be the key to all those new platforms that customers are
> interested in.

You mean the ones who don't mind being told what's best for them (think iPad=
)?

>> Flash is buggy, I'll give you that, but "Don't
>> install it." is not an option for a lot of people.
>
> I had been using "Flash" in the past (on FreeBSD). It was so
> annoying that I finally completely removed it. It has become
> *the* choice of "professional web developers" to make their
> sites unusable and finally unaccessible, as well as a big
> annoyance of users, primarily due to its sheer overuse for
> advertising purposes.

I never use flash where I'm able to avoid it. I have one client =20
wanting to use it for a simple transition (with affects) on one spot =20
in the front page. I personally won't use the stuff for website =20
development and disallow those sorts of ads. Until HTML5 support is =20
universal in all browser ports (there was mention of that not being =20
the case) talk of HTML5 video verges on the pointless.

Yes, Flash is old news and has been for a while. Yes, Flash is not =20
portable because Adobe is a jerk and many mobile/portable device =20
makers won't support it. But that's all irregardless to the OPs =20
question of bugginess on FreeBSD. If the Linux emulation isn't enough =20
and there is no option but to switch to an entirely different =20
platform, why even provide such an option? Linux emulation takes up a =20
lot of resources (space wise on the drive).

--=20
Yours in Christ,

PIT
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