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Date:      Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:40:50 +0100
From:      Oliver Brandmueller <ob@e-Gitt.NET>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   svn - but smaller?
Message-ID:  <20130123144050.GG51786@e-Gitt.NET>

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Hi,

in ancient times there was cvsup. cvsup was a PITA if you wanted (or 
needed) to install it via ports, the only reasonable way was to use 
pkg_add for that if you didn't want to pollute your system with 
otherwise unneeded software.

Then there came csup. Small, in the base. You could install FreeBSD and 
the first task (for me and my environment) was often to simply csup to 
-STABLE (or a known good version of that) and to build an up-to-date and 
customised system. Like tayloring make.conf and src.conf to my needs and 
leave out most of the stuff I don't need on my system and in the kernel. 
Software and drivers that aren't there can't fail and won't be a 
security problem.

Times have been changing, we're now up to svn. svn is far more modern 
than cvs and there are pretty good reasons to use it.

However, I either overlook something important or we are now at the 
point we had with cvsup in the early days: The software I need to 
(source-)update the system doens't come with the base and installing svn 
is a PITA. It pulls in a whole lot of dependencies, at the time being in 
FBSD-9.1-R I cannot even pkg_add -r subversion out of the box. And in 
the end I have my system polluted with software and libraries I don't 
really need in many cases for anything else.

So, is there some alternative small svn client, that leaves a 
drastically smaller footprint probably somewhere around, probably even 
in the ports or is there anything I'm missing? The current situaion for 
me is a bit annoying. From the user's or admin's point of view at least. 
I didn't even see an option in svn to not build the server components, 
which would probably already help to make things smaller?

Thanx,
	Oliver

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| Oliver Brandmueller          http://sysadm.in/         ob@sysadm.in |
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