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Date:      Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:42:44 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Tijl Coosemans <tijl@coosemans.org>
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.org, Vitaly Magerya <vmagerya@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: [HEADSUP] dialog4ports does not popup anymore only for global options
Message-ID:  <20130607134244.GL35160@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <51B1E067.8070204@coosemans.org>
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On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 03:30:15PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On 2013-06-07 13:40, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 12:46:08PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> >> On 2013-06-07 12:17, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 01:15:49PM +0300, Vitaly Magerya wrote:
> >>>> Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>>>>> Is it possible to still show the dialog if one of those options im=
plies
> >>>>>> additional dependencies?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If not, what should those of us who do not want them installed do?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> make config will always show those options so you can always tune t=
hem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> just make config-conditional will not fireup a new dialog automatic=
ally if the
> >>>>> defined options are only those from the global options.
> >>>>
> >>>> I see. As far as I can tell though, and correct me if I'm wrong, but
> >>>> 'make install' doesn't show those options. It also does not show tho=
se
> >>>> options for dependent ports. Neither does 'make config-recursive'.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tools like portmaster will now ignore those as well during install a=
nd
> >>>> reinstall.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, again, what are my options if I don't want dependencies to be pu=
lled
> >>>> in silently?
> >>>
> >>> You have no options and you never had one in the ports tree sorry.
> >>>
> >>> If you have a way to implement that cleanly, I'll be happy to push su=
ch features
> >>> in the ports but really I see a way to do what you ask for.
> >>
> >> How about only suppressing the dialog if the options have been explici=
tly
> >> set or unset in make.conf?
> >
> > That would be easy but is that a really desired feature?
>=20
> I can only speak for myself, but I don't see DOCS as a global option.
> For some ports I want documentation, for others I don't, so I want the
> dialog to show up even if DOCS is the only option.
>=20
> There doesn't seem to be a clear cut line between global and per port
> options and different users have different opinions about it.
>=20
> Can you make it such that config-conditional suppresses the dialog
> if all options have been explicitly set or unset either through
> command line, make.conf or optionsfile? Or in other words only show
> the dialog if one of the options falls back to a default value (e.g.
> when a new option has been added to a port and that option has not
> been set globally).
>=20
> I think that would allow anyone to set/unset any option globally and
> not be bothered by dialogs without enforcing that view on everybody
> else. You wouldn't need GLOBAL_OPTIONS any more then.
>=20

Ok so I misunderstood at first.

That looks not easy to do, and I'm a bit borred with hacking the options.

If someone do something in that direction, I'll be happy to review and help=
, but
honnestly I don't plan to do it myself.

regads,
Bapt

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