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Date:      Wed, 06 Dec 2017 19:48:40 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Cc:        "Pokala, Ravi" <rpokala@panasas.com>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>, "cem@freebsd.org" <cem@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>, ghapiro@freebsd.org, gjb@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Sendmail deprecation ?
Message-ID:  <201712070348.vB73mesl095194@slippy.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> of "Wed, 06 Dec 2017 18:51:05 -0800." <201712070251.vB72p58k054508@slippy.cwsent.com>

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In message <201712070251.vB72p58k054508@slippy.cwsent.com>, Cy Schubert 
writes:
> In message <B16088FF-FDE1-4EDF-AB76-D60C2E5F3E8F@panasas.com>, "Pokala, 
> Ravi" w
> rites:
> > So less "no dma(8)", and more "no default MTA at all; make them select one"
> ?
>
> Yes.

Thinking about this further and softening my position a little, I'd be 
satisfied with a knob to not build dma in base at all. (Though the desire 
to remove bloat I prefer not to replace when something is removed.)

Upline sendmail hasn't been updated for a a year and almost eight months. 
(I had misgivings of the sale.) Having said that, I think sendmail's time 
has come however I'm not convinced replacing it with another default MTA is 
the solution. A stub like pkg that could install a package, providing the 
user with a list to choose from, possibly timing out after a short period 
of time to install the dma pkg (or port) makes the most sense to me and 
should be a good compromise for all.

As gjb@ has been working toward packaged base, would it not be a good time 
for the MTA replacement project to consider relying on dma ports/packages?

Ports/packages are just as much FreeBSD as base is.


-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
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	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.





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