Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 22:25:10 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net> To: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: PR backlog (was: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver) Message-ID: <20180601032510.GJ11482@over-yonder.net> In-Reply-To: <20180531204946.GB24090@lonesome.com> References: <20180524160234.GD68014@FreeBSD.org> <201805241610.w4OGAAGY041280@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <20180530235156.310870d0@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> <CAECmPwvFkO6Qc_7kZowCHdSEVQwV12ZomsbTe4=X=sp7pW=7Kg@mail.gmail.com> <20180531101643.GV3789@kib.kiev.ua> <Pine.GSO.4.64.1805311004450.15754@sea.ntplx.net> <CAFvkmYNtVywXoX7wcy0qMzbvh-amcF-PsOXQMQD2L%2B9p%2BZWQJw@mail.gmail.com> <20180531204946.GB24090@lonesome.com>
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On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 03:49:46PM -0500 I heard the voice of Mark Linimon, and lo! it spake thus: > > We do slightly better turning over ports PRs -- due to the fact that > we attach a maintainer field to each port. This doesn't completely > solve the problem, but it goes some distance. >From my perspective as a maintainer of some and occasional contributor to others, I think "slightly" undersells it a bit; hardly without exception, but it generally works OK. I wrote up a couple more paragraphs about why I think it happens and what we'd need to do to import more of that sense over into src. But it was way longer than it needs to be. We get a lot more man-hours in ports/ acting as conduits for the "outside patches -> svn" pipeline because the incentives are rigged. A bad outside contribution brought into ports more often yields "hey, you should have noticed" to the committer and more opprobrium back to the submitter. A bad outside contribution brought into src falls all over the commiter. Not entirely unreasonable, since a lot of even small-ish breakages in src are much bigger deals than even large-ish breakages in ports. But it still makes it expensive to contemplate being a conduit... -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.
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