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Date:      Sat, 9 Mar 2019 18:26:40 +0200
From:      Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>
Cc:        "O'Connor, Daniel" <darius@dons.net.au>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: USB stack getting confused
Message-ID:  <20190309162640.GN2492@kib.kiev.ua>
In-Reply-To: <ea6e2690-1ad7-6c06-49e5-c528013f26c0@selasky.org>
References:  <E0371188-FD0A-47E1-8378-40239F5C6622@dons.net.au> <f3e6e30b-8b62-546b-2b51-e841f2e645bd@selasky.org> <3B29D870-41F9-46AF-B9F3-03106DEC417D@dons.net.au> <20190309152613.GM2492@kib.kiev.ua> <ea6e2690-1ad7-6c06-49e5-c528013f26c0@selasky.org>

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On Sat, Mar 09, 2019 at 04:42:50PM +0100, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> On 3/9/19 4:26 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 09, 2019 at 08:59:30PM +1030, O'Connor, Daniel wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 9 Mar 2019, at 19:30, Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org> wrote:
> >>> On 3/9/19 12:08 AM, O'Connor, Daniel wrote:
> >>>> My program normally runs continually doing acquisitions of data for N seconds, doing some checks and restarting. After a while (~30 1 minute acquisitions or ~8 30 minute ones) my program can't 'see' the device (it uses libusb10) any more (it reconnects each acquisition for $REASONS). Also pretty weirdly usbconfig can't see it either(!).
> >>>
> >>> What is printed in dmesg? Maybe the device has a problem.
> >>
> >> There is nothing in dmesg - no disconnect / reconnect etc.
> >>
> >> If I hold the user space process in gdb 'forever' (eg over night) usbconfig doesn't see the device, but the moment I quit the user space process it can be seen again.
> > 
> > Does it mean that the file descriptor opened for ugen has a chance to
> > be closed ?
> 
> The USB stack will wait for all FDs to be closed during detach also via 
> destroy_dev().
So my guess was correct.  Do you agree that this behaviour is wrong ?

In fact I saw something similar with apcupsd and either usb/com adapters
or native usb control card for APC UPSes.  For reasons I do not understand,
these devices are often disconnected.  For older versions of apcupsd,
it required restart for newly reattached device to be recreated in /dev.
Sometimes it hangs whole usb stack.

Newer apcupsd seems to open /dev/ugen only for the duration of the query,
which makes the erratic behaviour is much less likely, but could still cause
breakage when device disappear while apcupsd has it opened.

> 
> > 
> > I suspect that usb subsystem tried to destroy the device but some internal
> > refcounting prevents it.  Proper use of destroy_dev(_cb)(9) avoids
> > the issue.
> 
> --HPS



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