Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 12:14:06 +0100 From: Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net> To: Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it>, xfce@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFCE upgraded to 4.16 Message-ID: <27d29afb-7fa1-d1fb-d817-3cb3b296d92f@madpilot.net> In-Reply-To: <6bc1a88b-0455-93ff-10cc-91fe1b0dbc41@netfence.it> References: <46a21428-a640-f895-0f3b-f44c09497bf5@madpilot.net> <747ecac6-6d60-6143-1ae1-47801299b59b@netfence.it> <1502a321-02c0-13e9-16b3-6f11da9de3af@madpilot.net> <47ede65d-817a-8d80-a582-660d43ac6ac3@andreaventuroli.it> <ee9f59de-8814-cf6d-cf8a-ff13a88dccd2@madpilot.net> <45c74d5a-909b-8905-6673-b340e1d976b4@netfence.it> <b46f4878-8bb5-557f-a6c5-9b5500550aa6@madpilot.net> <989cf919-245c-61f9-3091-b0933849093b@netfence.it> <2b8631d8-479b-15ee-1efd-cc4bffd14710@madpilot.net> <838b577f-eb40-2776-19d4-2fb5f71611b3@netfence.it> <3655b4f7-0012-424b-7aa6-1d85fa2e9021@madpilot.net> <5f8cf84b-2474-d822-3f47-e57adabe1d92@madpilot.net> <6bc1a88b-0455-93ff-10cc-91fe1b0dbc41@netfence.it>
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On 09/01/21 12:09, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 1/8/21 8:42 PM, Guido Falsi wrote: > >>> I don't agree. Using a network file system for home directory if >>> problematic at present. Most software uses sqlite databases for >>> configurations which explicitly does not support networked file >>> systems. and other problems could arise. > >> > >> Such a note should be attached to most software in the ports tree. > >> Firefox and thunderbird (and most other browsers AFAIK) just to name > >> two which use sqlite DBs heavily. > > (This is going OT, but Sqlite, in their FAQ, only suggest against > *multiple processes* accessing the same database over NFS. > ThunderBird works perfectly in such a setup as it's only one > user/program accessing the database.) Thunderbird will work fine until it will have problems. Anyway you are obviouslt free to run your system any way you'd like to. > > >> ANyway, thinking about it, if the chflag errors are just warnings like >> you say above, then setting a custom TMPDIR will not be needed even >> with your setup. So there is no need for a warning anyway. > > Guido, you are losing sight with the heart of the problem, i.e. without > TMPDIR, xfce4-appearance-settings tries to create a temporary directory > in / (and obviously fails). > This has nothing to do with where home is or what filesystem it's using. I've proposed a patch upstream to fix this where it should be fixed. Depending on the existence of a variable and not having a sensible default is an upstream bug. Ref: https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/-/merge_requests/41 > > IMVVHO, if TMPDIR is something a FreeBSD will most probably NOT have, > then it should be changed into something else. Or at least the user > should know it must be set. I made a mistake saying that it would have to be set. I said that because I thought that /tmp (a sensible fallback default and what I propose upstream) would not have been a working one on your setup, but that's not the case. So patching upstream to fallback on /tmp is more reasonable. > > bye > av. -- Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
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