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Date:      Fri, 14 Aug 2015 19:40:45 -0700
From:      James Lott <james@lottspot.com>
To:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ethernet tunneling options under FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <3236701.dypBHjs8Lg@arch_project>
In-Reply-To: <55CE0659.6050206@freebsd.org>
References:  <55CD1CE6.2010502@lottspot.com> <55CE0659.6050206@freebsd.org>

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> you haven't really described the network well enough..
> try an ascii-art diagram (don't forget to set fixed width font :-)
> a VPN required two ends.. one is FreeBSD... what's the other?

The thing is, the "other" could be any number of operating systems. I'm 
looking for a tunneling protocol with good cross-platform representation, but 
the higher priority it enduring it tunnels ethernet frames.

For the sake of example we can say the other end is a FreeBSD host, since 
FreeBSD is looking like the "lowest common denominator" on this topic.

> if both ends are FreeBSD there are dozens of possibilities..
> for example:
> ng_eif->netgraph->ppp->ipsec->ppp->netgraph->ng_eif
> 
> ng_eif->ng_ksock(udp)->IPsec->ng_ksock->ng_eif
> 

I'm not overly concerned with the host side interfaces. What I'm really 
concerned with is the tunneling protocol since that's what will need support 
on all of my platforms. Thus, a solution requiring netgraph on both ends is 
not an option in my case.

> tap->ppp->ppp->tap

I have not found any ppp implementations under FreeBSD which support BCP. 
To my understanding, that's the only method by which ethernet frames can be 
tunneled over ppp... if I'm wrong, please do correct me! I would love nothing 
more than to be wrong about that :)

On Friday, August 14, 2015 23:16:41 Julian Elischer wrote:
> On 8/14/15 6:40 AM, James Lott wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > I am in the process of planning a build out of a L2 VPN, in which
> > I'd like to have my primary "switch" and DHCP server be a FreeBSD
> > system. I would like to join each new host to the VPN by
> > establishing an IP tunnel with the primary "switch" which transports
> > ethernet frames over the tunnel.
> 
> you haven't really described the network well enough..
> try an ascii-art diagram (don't forget to set fixed width font :-)
> a VPN required two ends.. one is FreeBSD... what's the other?
> 
> > So far, the only protocol I have found supported by FreeBSD which
> > seems capable of this is EtherIP. As far as I can tell, it doesn't
> > look like there is any support for L2TPv3, and none of the PPP
> > implementations available appear to support BCP.
> > 
> > I'm not completely opposed to using EtherIP, but if there is
> > something more modern which will meet my needs, I would probably try
> > that first. So my question becomes:
> > 
> > * Does anyone know of a method supported under FreeBSD (other than
> > EtherIP) for tunneling ethernet over IP that they may be able to
> > suggest I check out?
> 
> if both ends are FreeBSD there are dozens of possibilities..
> for example:
> ng_eif->netgraph->ppp->ipsec->ppp->netgraph->ng_eif
> 
> ng_eif->ng_ksock(udp)->IPsec->ng_ksock->ng_eif
> 
> tap->ppp->ppp->tap
> 
> > Thanks for any suggestions!
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James Lott



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