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Date:      Sun, 24 May 1998 15:26:58 -0700
From:      Studded <Studded@san.rr.com>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: A proposal for focus.
Message-ID:  <35689EB2.856DE36E@san.rr.com>
References:  <15760.896002665@time.cdrom.com>

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Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> I've been watching the debates on this list ping-pong back and forth
> for the last couple of months now, and it occurs to me that one thing
> we're lacking here is even a reasonable consensus about what areas of
> FreeBSD advocacy to focus on first.

	I think the problem is more fundamental than that. There is no clear
consensus on what "freebsd" wants to be. You've expressed part of that
here. Before you can do effective advocacy you have to have a group
consensus on what you're advocating for. Unfortunately right now people
are each advocating for their own view of what they want it to be, which
leads to the circumstances you describe. 

	Yes, I know that anarchy is part of the nature of the freebsd project,
however not only does it not work in a promotional campaign it actually
makes us look very foolish.

> First, we agree to set aside, and strictly for the time being, all
> discussion on "commercializing" FreeBSD 

	I agree, but I'd like to see a clearer definition. I really believe
that this is a good time to push forward on promoting freebsd as a
"commercial" solution to ISP's and other server markets. People are
starting to look past linux (momentum slowing, "ok, we've done that"
attitude, etc.) and they are WAY disillusioned with NT. However our
trying to promote anything that doesn't actually exist right now is
overextending our limited resources.

> My second suggestion is that we agree to knock it off with the
> negative advertising.  

	Absolutely. There is a huge difference between, "Let me show you how
FreeBSD performs in comparison with some products that you are familiar
with," and "Microsoft sucks, let me show you why." :)  We need to stop
bashing people and focus on the strengths that we have. Our concern is
not taking market share away from linux, (or MS for that matter). 

Doug

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