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Date:      Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:47:48 -0500
From:      "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" <kaleb@ics.com>
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ldconfig and libraries
Message-ID:  <36BA0774.13496EC3@ics.com>
References:  <199901311851.KAA07228@vashon.polstra.com> <199902040322.TAA18413@vashon.polstra.com> <199902041920.LAA19846@vashon.polstra.com>

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John Polstra wrote:

> you're the fellow demanding that
> "ldconfig must die" and then looking to the FreeBSD development team
> to make the change (against the loudly expressed wishes of the vast
> majority of our users) and take the heat for it.

ROTFLMAO. You (collectively) don't have any trouble taking the heat for,
e.g. the lack of SVR4-style rc/init, event though some number of people
want it.

You're telling me you listen to your users, but when a user (me) tells
you something, you respond with "shut up, we don't want to hear what our
users are telling us." Which is it, are you listening or not?

Where do you (collectively) make a stand, put your foot down, and say,
it's a bad idea, or redundant, or whatever the case may be and refuse to
do something?

For the five-plus years I've subscribed to this list I've seen plenty of
evidence that "heat from the vast majority of your users" is rarely a
factor in making a technical decision.

> OK, I'm not your Dr. Laura.  

Oh, that's really clever. I suppose I should be happy you're not telling
me I don't know how to read a spec or something similar.

So, since you listen to your users, we'll be seeing SVR4-style rc/init
in 3.1, right?

--

Kaleb

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