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Date:      Tue, 03 Aug 1999 08:41:37 -0700
From:      Doug <Doug@gorean.org>
To:        Peter McGarvey <Networks.Manager@rncm.ac.uk>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, David Kudrav <dkudrav@eng.ua.edu>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, kudra001@bama.ua.edu
Subject:   Re: basic info on freebsd needed...
Message-ID:  <37A70DB1.E3784E60@gorean.org>
References:  <NDBBJLAJELEHNLGABIJNCEPECBAA.Networks.Manager@rncm.ac.uk>

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Peter McGarvey wrote:

> What makes it easier?  Well, here is my experience with RedHat Linux 6.0....
> 
> I started the installation, answered lots of questions then waited 15 mins.
> When my machine rebooted I was straight into X with gnome/enlightenment all
> nicely setup.
> 
> And now my experience with FreeBSD....
> 
> I started the installation, answered lots of questions then waited 15 mins.
> I didn't setup X as the last time I tried it caused the whole installation
> to crap-out.  When my machine rebooted I was straight a wonderful command
> prompt.  I then launched sysinstall again and configured my X server and my
> desktop.  Then I had to wade through the ports and once I'd worked out what
> I needed it took about three hours to get in all compiled and installed.
> 
> So, even though I hate to place FreeBSD behind Linux, in this instance I'm
> affraid Linux wins.

	For out of the box configuration FreeBSD is basically a server OS, linux
is more of a desktop OS. Therefore your experience is not altogether
unexpected. Also, if you had known where to look you could have had X and
kde set up just as quickly as linux set up enlightenment for you. In fact,
you probably could have had enlightenment set up just as fast, but I don't
know for sure because I use kde and don't have any experience with the
other wm ports. 

	All that being said, the OOB is important, and freebsd tools tend to be
written for people who already know the system. Then again, that's true of
most unices that I've worked with. Is one or the other more "intuitive?"
I'm not in a position to judge that, but you can't say that the tools
aren't there for freebsd because they are. The only matter of contention is
how they are presented. 

Good luck,

Doug


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