Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 02:14:04 -0800 From: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> To: Darren Reed <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au> Cc: Yoshinobu Inoue <shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp>, louie@TransSys.COM, committers@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th Message-ID: <38746AEC.167EB0E7@elischer.org> References: <200001060927.UAA03779@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au>
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Darren Reed wrote:
>
>
> For what it's worth, I think releasing 4.0 *without* IPv6 support
> is a mistake. Why ? Because in < 12 months FreeBSD 5.0 will be
> released *with* IPv6 support (I'd count IPv6 as being a big enough
> change to signify a major release number change). If that doesn't
> happen, then FreeBSD is chasing the wrong goals, IMHO.
>
> Personally, I think the timeline laid down - 25(?) days from now
> until 4.0 release is too aggressive. Given that the announcement
> (to me) seemed to be rather autocratic and possibly driven by
> marketting factors ("we need 4.0 out now regardless" ?) than by
> the general stability and maturity of -current. Well, that's the
> impression I get from an announcement encouraging people to do
> heavy testing in the next 10 days. I would encourage Jordan and
> others to have a rethink about the timeframe for 4.0 and what plans
> they have for it feature wise.
I agree with this..
I think that 4.0 is clsoe but it's just not there yet.
I think it needs IPV6 to have reached a better milestone, and certainly
the stuff that warner is doing (and others) needs to be a little
further down the track.
I think the release needs to be made at a 'knee in the curve' of
change and I think that the slope after the suggested date
will be identical to that before it, which to me indicates
that there is no real rason or axcuse to make that the release.
I think we should layout a plan of everything that everyone is working
on
and try find a natural inflection point. I reallu thing that IPV6 is too
important to make a release with it "half" implemented.
>
> To give you some idea, Solaris8 will have been in *beta* for ~9 months
> when it is released and will support IPv6 (telnet, inetd services, NFS)
> and IPSec when it is released around March. FreeBSD is no less an OS
> than Solaris is, when it comes to completeness.
>
> Darren
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