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Date:      Sat, 30 Jun 2001 07:30:29 -0600
From:      Don Wilde <Don@Silver-Lynx.com>
To:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Microsoft giving back to FreeBSD !!
Message-ID:  <3B3DD475.B44E9882@Silver-Lynx.com>
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Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> 
> [ Trimmed Cc: list.  Do we have to cross-post? ]
> 
I'm not on -chat, sorry.

> On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 01:06:55PM -0600, Don Wilde wrote:
> 
> > "Pedro F. Giffuni" wrote:
> >
> > > Perhaps now that they are working with Corel on this, and FreeBSD is
> > > one of the two supported platforms we can finally get a native port of
> > > Corel's office suite. (there you go ... a plausible campaign).
> >
> > My understanding is that Corel has been running away at hyperspeed from
> > Linux. Their Corel Draw graphics suite is no longer supported as a
> > front-line product, for example.
> 
> Which linux of them all?
> 
> Oh, oh, you mean Corel Linux?  *sigh*
> 
> </satire>
> 
> Well, it can be kind of daunting and rather tiresome to try to make
> Corel-Draw work out of the box on an infinite number of distributions.
> On the other hand, there are loads of programs out there that seem to
> manage perfectly fine.
> 
> Corel Draw is a nice program to have.  It always seems to do wonders
> with graphics, once you get the hang of the usual Corel stupidness of
> implementing a GUI of their own and not relying on the OS/API beneath
> to provide with the interface style.  I even bought a copy of the
> program when I was running Linux on my home PC.  If not for the sake
> of having a nice vector graphics program around, just for making sure
> that those few bucks would probably make it apparent that good
> commercial software *can* and *will* be bought by Open Source users.
> 
That was my intention, too.

> Then support was dropped.  And it seemed to bring back all those dim
> memories of hating commercial vendors, just because of the ease which
> they can 'abandon' their users with.
> 
Believe me, I _hated_ buying a copy for each of 3 Doze boxen. I use
Corel a LOT because it's a really easy tool for making concept graphics.
We don't have its equivalent.

> You mean *that* Corel?
> Somehow, I dont seem to be interested in them anymore.
> 
That was my original point, that Linux is losing favor with commercial
vendors. The reality is that the Linux/BSD/BEos/XXX market IS tiny
except for those outside the "West", and they don't pay cash. It's too
easy for a Lexmark (for example) to have Samsung build a piece of utter
garbage and call it a printer, package it with an obnoxious windows
cycle-stealer of a GUI control suite, and make tons of money from it.
American companies (the rich ones, anyway) just don't care about
fairness. Apple is doing Mac OS X for their own profitable purposes, not
because they want to be different. However, I do see this as a good
thing because it will allow us a comfortable little niche where we will
be able to pluck from their innovations (especially if M$ does continue
this 'shared source' model). We will have to figure out how to do an
Aqua compatibility mode pretty soon, because that's where the
interesting OS X programs are going to fly.

-- 
Don Wilde           http://www.Silver-Lynx.com
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