Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:34:14 -0500 From: Jim Bryant <kc5vdj@yahoo.com> To: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> Cc: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>, Daniel Eischen <eischen@vigrid.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> Subject: Re: Headsup! KSE Nay-sayers speak up! Message-ID: <3B8AAEC6.7050302@yahoo.com> References: <XFMail.010827103921.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <p05101002b7b04870eb2b@[128.113.24.47]>
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Garance A Drosihn wrote: > "5.0" (or whatever name it will go by) is slated for November, right? > And the plan was that a new 6.0-current branch wouldn't even be STARTED > until sometime next year, because we'll be concentrating on the > reliability of 5.x. These kernel changes have to go in before anyone > can work on userland changes. My guess is that if we do not get the > KSE kernel stuff into 5.0, then we probably won't get to the desired > userland features until sometime WELL into 2003. Maybe that's better > than the gap between 4.0 and 5.0, but I think it's too long to have > these changes waiting around. I agree... I thought the idea of 5.0 was to kick Linux in the butt. It isn't as if they are just sitting around... FreeBSD is going to be left in the dust unless both the SMPng *AND* KSE projects are integrated into 5.0. > At the kernel summit meeting, Julian was given a green light with the > timetable of getting this set of changes done by August. Right now it > is pretty late in August, but (thanks partially to help from others) > that schedule has basically been kept to. It would be nice to reward > that effort by getting these changes in. [Looks at calandar] Yup! It's August! Good work Julian! > This does seem prudent to me. We should have at least a few more > people running these changes before they get committed to current, > and preferably on more than the i386 platform. If we are going to > be serious about supporting more hardware platforms, then we have > to start treating them more seriously when major changes like this > come along. If we can't get some broader testing of this done in > the next few weeks, then the changes should probably wait until > after "5.0". I believe that I read in an earlier thread that the archetecture-specific changes are minimal, and that majority of the changes are in high-level constructs in the kernel. Of course, I could be recalling this incorrectly, but I don't think I am... jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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