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Date:      Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:46:26 -0400
From:      "Dan Langille" <dan@langille.org>
To:        Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: getting the ports tree
Message-ID:  <3BC23AD2.30037.697D799@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20011008203424.C21516@windriver.com>
References:  <3BC20C95.15121.5E42836@localhost>; from dan@langille.org on Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 08:29:09PM -0400

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On 8 Oct 2001 at 20:34, Murray Stokely wrote:

>   This information really belongs in Chapter 4 "Ports and Packages" of
> the Handbook.  

That's what I was reading.

> That whole chapter could use a little work actually,
> and you'd be the perfect guy to help improve it!  

Murray, please, you already have a girlfriend... flattery won't 
work here.

> Is there any chance
> you can supply a patch to this chapter that adds the information you
> desire?

My goal is to have a URL which I can use this this in the diary:

   For information on installing and using the the ports tree, please see
   http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/....

as that should appear in any article dealing with ports.  Seeing as I'm
the one that opened my big mouth, I guess so.  Consider it a selfish
contribution to make my own website easier to write.

Section 4.2 'Finding Your Application' doesn't mention 'make search'.
It should as many people don't know about it.

4.4.2 Removing Installed Ports refers to 'make deinstall' for removing
a port.  pkg_delete should be mentioned as well.  And note that
'make deinstall' isn't the best way to remove a port.  It works if
you haven't done a 'make clean' AND if the port hasn't been
upgraded via a cvsup since the make was initially done.  Basically,
I don't think make deinstall should be mentioned at all.  It's not
a command for a newbie.  pkg_delete is.  And we should mention
pkg_delete -f as well.

> Reorganizing some of the rest of the chapter, or turning the
> informal Q/A at the end into more formal text wouldn't hurt either. ;)

That's section 4.5.  Careful... You don't want me to too much at once...

> On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 08:29:09PM -0400, Dan Langille wrote:
> > IIRC, the handbook at one time or another contained instructions 
> > for installing the ports tree.  Newbies need that.  I looked tonight
> > for those instructions.  I failed to find them at the website under
> > handbook/ports and under /ports.  I hope I'm going blind because
> > a step by step process would be nice to refer users to.  Are they
> > there?
> > 
> > FWIW: I remember two methods:
> > 
> > 1 - cvsup
> > 
> > 2 - /stand/sysinstall
> 


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