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Date:      Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:13:35 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
Cc:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>, Dallas De Atley <deatley@apple.com>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: __P macro question
Message-ID:  <3C589A3F.10F18882@mindspring.com>
References:  <20020130221427.522493A9A@overcee.wemm.org>

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Peter Wemm wrote:
> In case you didn't notice, this rant you posted is in a thread
> that mentions that NetBSD *is* agressively removing __P() and OpenBSD
> appear to be as well.

I want the decision to be intentional, not simply because
of "herd instinct".

> The bottom line is that the effort to port gcc to an arch that only has a
> K&R compiler is far more productive than trying to get our tree to build
> on a K&R-only compiler.

The cost to doing this is:

1)	You risk becoming the compiler maintainer for 2
	years, in order to comply with the license.

2)	It is another barrier to using BSD code.

3)	The GCC compiler is sub-par on many architectures.


> Nobody in their right mind is going to run FreeBSD-5.x on a 6809 or
> a Z80 or a 68010.  The least of their problems is the compiler.

I hope your misunderstanding here is intentional.

I am not talking about running the full FreeBSD-5.x on a
68010, I am talking about using portions of the code as a
reference implementation.

For example, taking the TCP/IP stack by itself, with all
the DOS attack hardening and other hardenening, and using
it in a system other than FreeBSD.

-- Terry

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