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Date:      Fri, 11 Oct 2002 08:12:47 +0200
From:      Roelof Osinga <roelof@eboa.com>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: How now, BSD crow?
Message-ID:  <3DA66BDF.7020602@eboa.com>
References:  <3DA63909.1090108@eboa.com> <20021011034059.GB37217@xor.obsecurity.org> <3DA6567D.1040709@eboa.com> <20021011054106.GA39456@xor.obsecurity.org>

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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 06:41:33AM +0200, Roelof Osinga wrote:
> 
>>Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>
> 
> You don't have these files *INSTALLED* yet.  cvsupping doesn't install
> them for you, 'make world' (not 'make buildworld'!) does.

Yeah. But in my notes which I've written down based on actions inspired
by this mailling list, sometimes somethings needed to be done before and
sometimes things needed to be done after. For a poor luser it is a murky
mess, indeed.

For the programmers, of course, it is very clear indeed. I know. I'm one
of those. But my clients will agree with me on this ;).

> In LINT (the canonical place where kernel options are documented)

Canons be darned. /usr/src/UPGRADING is what everybody gets told to read. Not
to inspect the canons. Whatever those may be.

Especially LINT. LINT is nice if you want to look something up, but it is
not a hands-on manual that leads one through all the steps needing to be
taken to implement some such thingamathing or other.

While I'm typing this, it just occurred to me. Some years ago the world got
rocked once again. There was something about making the world versus explicitly
building it and installing it. Later it all got changed again. Every one of
those changes was deemed important. Every one of those changes changed things.

People don't like changes. Monkeys don't either. Dolphins I don't know. My
pitch is way off.

So I, for one, don't really pay attention. I just do. If it don't work, well
gosh. Bummer. Either I can fix it or I will need to sollicit help. Either
way, I don't feel ashamed.

The canonical place... yeah, right! ;)

Roelof

PS it is 'in cannons we trust', not canons!

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