Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:16:39 +0200 From: Lefteris Tsintjelis <lefty@ene.asda.gr> To: Paul Everlund <tdv94ped@cs.umu.se> Cc: Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.ORG>, JT32255@aol.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why Use a Daemon as a Symbol since it alienates many? Message-ID: <3DC68F57.97E736EF@ene.asda.gr> References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0211041534450.15818-100000@kvist.cs.umu.se>
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Maybe they should, maybe they should not use some therapist. The point is that this is the majority of them and yes maybe Windblows is the real evil thing, still, the fact _IS_ that it is used to more than 90% of the PCs worldwide. FreeBSD, or even the most other well known OS, linux, _ARE NOT_. According to you and me they may need therapy, BUT that is the majority of them and according to them we maybe the ones that we could use some therapy. We are the minority afterall so I guess we should consult some therapist, right? Do you see the point I am trying to make here? People believe and use different things. After all its a free world and they are in title to do so. The problem here is that most of their responses to the previous question, since they never even heard of Unix or alike systems, will be that "this OS since it has a sign that looks like the devil and therefor is evil", and I think that this should be taken into very serious consideration if FreeBSD would like to increase its popularity even more, I am sure Lixux has. Paul Everlund wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote: > > > I think you are missing the whole point here. Let me make it a little > > more clear to you. Suppose we ask this question to two different types > > of people "Hey, what do you think about Beastie? What does it remind you > > of?" and show them Beastie. First group is FreeBSD users or users that > > know this litle cute, and as you claim "daemon", second group is the the > > wide majority of people that know nothing about PCs and hardly even use > > Windblows. I wonder what do u think each group will respond to this > > question? > > > > Regards, > > Lefteris > > People who are sane wouldn't react or respond at all. People who > on the other hand says it's the devil, bla, bla, and that's an evil > thing, bla, bla, and that the OS is evil too, they should probably be > going to some kind of therapist. :-) > > Windows really is evil, but not in a religious way. It's evil because > it crashes. Maybe it would be more appropriate if they instead used > that little nice guy "The Daemon"? :-) > > Have a nice day! > > Best regards, > Paul > > > Juli Mallett wrote: > > > > > > * De: Lefteris Tsintjelis <lefty@ene.asda.gr> [ Data: 2002-11-04 ] > > > [ Subjecte: Re: Why Use a Daemon as a Symbol since it alienates many? ] > > > > Grow ups or not and as ridiculous as it may sound and probably is, > > > > these are both good points and they both could have effect on FreeBSD's > > > > popularity, the satan looking symbol and the hostility towards Berkeley. > > > > As for the symbol, well, I would expect it to look something more world > > > > wide acceptable, neutral, and cute, like Penguin is and not as a > > > > "demon". We all know the difference between "daemons" and "demons", > > > > however, there are plenty of people that don't and as far as popularity > > > > goes compared to Linux, well, popular doesn't necessarily mean a > > > > "kitchen sink" linux OS, IF HANDLED RIGHT of course, and I am sure that > > > > there isn't anyone here that wouldn't like FreeBSD being popular. After > > > > all, I think it deserves a lot more than Linux does and the way these > > > > third party linux companies such as RedHat and SuSE are handling it. > > > > > > The fact that we have a number of *very* devoutly religious developers > > > who come from religions where there is a figure similar to that which > > > people seem to be alluding to, at least in translated written descriptions > > > and artistic renderings which may or may not have been based on said > > > descriptions, should be a good point, unless someone can believe that > > > said people are actually in service of the devil... > > > > > > If I'm in service of el diablo, I wish someone would tell me... I expect > > > better opportunities for sinning and whatnot! > > > > > > All joking aside, goats are cute, beastie is cute, and I've known a lot > > > of people who went to Berkeley who are, to say the least, cute. > > > > > > It's beyond ridiculous, it's pretentious nonsense! People need to realise > > > that "satan" hasn't shown himself to the world at large even in anecdotal > > > accounts for quite a while, unless you count political commercials... And > > > neither has "god" - you'd think that one way or the other we'd have one of > > > them telling us a thing or two in moderately modern times about, at the least, > > > what the "devil" actually looks like. > > > > > > Frankly, I find it more plausible that you're all manifestations of (my) > > > deranged imagination, than that "the devil" looks even remotely like Beastie. > > > > > > uNF uNF Beastie's cute. Grow up. Images are an illusion, in the written > > > word doubly so. > > > > > > Isn't deciding it'd be fun to read -chat now and then in and of itself fun? > > > > > > Humbug I say. > > > -- > > > Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org> | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve > > > Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger jmallett@FreeBSD.org > > > http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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