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Date:      Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:57:40 -0500
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
To:        Heinrich Rebehn <rebehn@ant.uni-bremen.de>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: fsck takes very long after crash/reset
Message-ID:  <3E4AA734.5040102@potentialtech.com>
References:  <3E4A5B77.5080103@ant.uni-bremen.de> <3E4A863E.2030801@potentialtech.com> <3E4A8EF5.1070308@ant.uni-bremen.de> <3E4A9712.8030609@potentialtech.com> <3E4AA331.5040701@ant.uni-bremen.de>

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Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
>>> This is the point where people talk about journalling fs, and i think 
>>> they're right.
>>
>> Did you search the archives as I suggested?  There was a lot of useful
>> information in some of the past discussions.
> 
> I have searched freebsd-qustions, but the only info regarding fsck times 
> was that fsck will be made in bg with 5.0

Well, I did some searches, and it isn't as easy to find as I had thought.
You have to search for things like XFS and Reiser. Here is one that I did
find that's interesting:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=15557+19691+/usr/local/www/db/text/2002/freebsd-questions/20021201.freebsd-questions

>>> Running fsck in the background might help when 5.0 becomes stable. If 
>>> it really works, ok, otherwise i really think a journalling fs is 
>>> needed.
>>
>> I think journalling is a good idea anyway.  Although it's not the 
>> solution
>> to every problem, journalling has some advantages that softupdates 
>> doesn't.
>> It would be nice if both were available.  Are you volunteering, because I
>> seem to remember the conversation that nobody has had the time to port
>> something like Reiser to FreeBSD yet.
> 
> I'm afraid not. I have very little experience with C programming (more 
> FORTRAN, PASCAL, ASSEMBLER, MODULA, ADA). Also i'm not at all familiar 
> w/ the internals of FreeBSD. Time would also be a problem, but not the 
> biggest. Are the filesystem APIs of Linux and FreeBSD so much different? 
> (Probably a silly question :-))

Yeah, I think just about everyone who's interested in a JFS falls into the
category of "I don't have time" or "I don't have the know-how".  I'm not
sure if the background fsck capability of FreeBSD 5 is an attempt at an
alternate solution to the problem or not.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com


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