Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:45:35 -0600 From: rob spellberg <emailrob@emailrob.com> To: FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: was this really necessary? [ was Re: The FreeBSD Jive Copyright ] Message-ID: <3E56F25F.3B09AB9F@emailrob.com> References: <00bc01c2d93e$452d1f60$0502000a@sentinel> <4.3.2.7.2.20030221181620.01b7ded8@threespace.com> <20030222010251.Y318@ndhn.yna.cnyserzna.pbz>
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William Palfreman wrote:
> I think it was completely harmless, and the GPL one was quite funny.
> Dialects are dialects, and there are hundreds to choose from. Simply
> using one is never offensive to the people who speak it themselves, only
> if the *content* is insulting, and software licences are not, no matter
> how you look at it. And what is all this rubbish about elitism? Sure,
> maybe FreeBSD is elitist regarding how well you code and exactly what
> you have put into BSD, but is certainly is not ethnically based. In
> fact, I would say (going from my own experiences in London) the FreeBSD
> tends to be the OS of choice for very cool techies/coders of either
> Arabic or African extraction, whereas Linux has a much
> whiter/scruffy-teenage image, especially Debian.
>
> Oh, and Rob, if you were a strong Libertarian, you would support Stacy's
> right to free speech, not make up faux-legalistic stuff about why
> someone shouldn't post amusing messages to a totally public mailinglist.
if you re-read my post, you will find that i do --not-- say
that so should not circulate her thoughts.
i say, as diplomatically as i can, that circulating thoughts
of this nature on a --public-- forum is,
in my opinion, not a smart move.
i can't speak to how things are done over on your side of the pond,
but over here we have an extremely litigious society.
this is not far from the type of humor that got "amos and andy" and
"heckyl and jeckyl" [ sp. ? ] taken off of television.
if you find this funny, you have so's address.
start your own mailing list together.
if you mean no harm and everyone on the list is of like mind,
then i would think no harm is done [ i could be wrong ].
a public list, however, has not pre-qualified the views of its readers.
it is not known, a priori, that this is "amusing" to everyone.
i read that you are big on the "right to free speech".
i do so hate to get legalistic on you and
i am not being the least bit faux here but,
in the usa, it's actually a "privilege".
that's because our constitution has an amendment process.
our much ballyhooed first amendment --is-- repealable.
all it takes is for 2/3 each of our house and senate and
3/4 of our states to think that
"it seemed like a good idea at the time."
just think: if it wasn't for that pesky first amendment,
we could finally pass a meaningful "hate speech code".
think about these two things:
a] there is a big difference between
1] having the "right" to do something stupid and
2] having the wisdom to not actually go and do it.
b] just because you're out in public doesn't mean anything goes.
rob
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