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Date:      Fri, 07 Jul 2000 21:56:51 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, Joseph Scott <joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: No port of Opera? (Was: ((FreeBSD : Linux) :: (OS/2 :   Windows)))
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In-Reply-To: <20000708021509.B1136@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
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At 02:45 PM 7/7/2000, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:

>There's something rather obviously wrong with the BSD-compatibility-
>for-linux argument, especially combined with your (Brett's) ideas that
>linux guys will want to screw BSD at the first opportunity.  If that
>is the case (and even if not, actually), you may write a perfect
>FreeBSD compatibility layer, but how are you going to get the big
>linux distributions to include it?

The same way Sun got Microsoft to include Java. Get a buzz going.
Get developers to write for it as a universal API/ABI, so users
demand it. Let developers include it on their CDs, so that even
if it's not in the distro it is installed with the app.

>On a related note I saw this interesting article (didn't preserve the
>link, it may be there on lwn.net or someplace) on how the big linux
>distributors aren't themselves using a lot of the software they give
>their public.

That's because the ones they use are often commercial. They don't have
the right to redistribute them. They put on the disks what they are
allowed to.

One thing I wish that FreeBSD did was give you ALL of Sendmail. Right
now, you get a precompiled Sendmail, plus a standard sendmail.cf and
m4. But you don't get the stuff that's required to use m4 to make
a new sendmail.cf with different options! You have to bring in all
of sendmail to do that.

I'd rather see an all-or-nothing approach. Either give me ALL of
Sendmail or leave me with just /bin/mail and a POP client.

--Brett



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