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Date:      Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:47:14 -0400
From:      Technical Information <tech_info@threespace.com>
To:        FreeBSD Chat <chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: helping victims of terror
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First off, let me say that I'm not well-educated enough about these other 
incidents to debate with you on them.  So there it is for you--an American 
admitting on the record that he is ignorant on a foreign issue. ;-)

But even if the CIA was involved in training and arming these people, it 
was NOT done in the name of terrorism.  It was made in the interest of 
stopping the spread of Communism, which has been part of our national 
directive for decades now.  The fact that these men later turned rogue and 
used their knowledge against the U.S. or any other peoples doesn't mean 
that they should not be stopped.  As I've said before, their training and 
past history are irrelevant here.  What they did was wrong. "This crime is 
not acceptable" and "it all comes around eventually" don't sound like they 
could come from the same person to me.

Frankly, my hope is that if there's any good to come out of this whole 
horrible mess, it's that this can be used as a rallying cry to bring many 
nations together that will help stamp out terrorism.  I don't believe that 
the U.S. can do it acting as a lone cowboy, but I do believe that this 
country is in a unique position to help co-ordinate and bolster the efforts 
of many nations that have the will but lack the way to achieve this 
goal.  And if that means no more bombings in Bombay, London, or New York, 
then in my mind that's A Good Thing.

Even if you do think the U.S. was slow to take a hard stance on terrorism, 
I don't really see how you can condemn our desire to stop it once and for 
all.  With lots of luck and assistance, we may just succeed.

--Chip Morton

PS -- And I would still like to know where your country's leaders/people 
stand on this issue?



At 06:10 PM 9/24/2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
>This crime is not acceptable.  There is no justification for it.
>America has every right to retaliate.  No argument on that.
>
>BUT - knowing America, the retaliation is only going to create a
>further unholy mess, which will poison the region for years, as if it
>hasn't been damaged enough already, and I'm from a country in that
>region which is already suffering from the terrorism which resulted
>from America's earlier experiments there.  Islamic terrorists, from
>that part of the world, using know-how gained from Americans, set off
>serial bomb blasts in 1992-93 in Bombay which killed hundreds of
>people.  Where was your American anti-terrorist fervour then?  They
>hijacked an Indian Airlines flight from Nepal, and after taking it all
>over the middle east, kept it for days in Khandahar (Afghanistan),
>killing one passenger on the way.  They've killed thousands in
>Kashmir.  Forget about India if you like: Pakistan, America's
>erstwhile ally, has been perhaps the hardest hit by fundamentalist
>sectarian violence; Pakistan's politicians acknowledge it today.  They
>too made mistakes in not controlling the cancer earlier; but
>ultimately all this, I repeat, is the doing of the CIA; they couldn't
>stomach the thought of the Soviets entering Afghanistan, and any means
>were fair game to the end of getting them out.  Well, it all comes
>around eventually.
>
>This time, I fear, the results of America's "revenge" will be much
>worse: not only for countries in that region, but for the whole world.
>That's not to say nothing should be done.  Handled wisely, maybe
>terrorism can indeed be controlled, the lot of those countries can be
>improved, the world can become a better place.  Somehow, I don't trust
>America to take us to that kind of Utopia.  Not on past record.  I'm
>mildly encouraged by the fact that they haven't started bombing yet;
>but only mildly.
>
>R


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