Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:15:10 -0500 From: Technical Information <tech_info@threespace.com> To: FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: EzBSD aint for me! Was: A breath of fresh air.. Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20011213150733.01572328@threespace.com> In-Reply-To: <15384.11772.363959.693167@guru.mired.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011212181551.015734a8@threespace.com> <20011211140107.A67653@FreeBSD.org> <0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> <01121010202100.00345@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> <20011211144049.A14693@acidpit.org> <20011211214943.A4489@tisys.org> <15382.29599.349155.309028@guru.mired.org> <20011211230257.A5157@tisys.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20011212181551.015734a8@threespace.com>
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At 11:26 PM 12/12/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > There's nothing like sitting down at > > another UNIX user's personal computer and trying to get accustomed to his > > personalized mouse button mapping, follow-the-pointer window focusing, or > > even directory structure. > >Maximize the xterm window, invoke screen, and forget about it. All >done. This just sounds like an attempt at avoiding the issue to me. I don't know how this helps when I need to run X-based software and manipulate its windows. > > There's a reason why no car company tries to alter the arrangement > > of the clutch, gas, and brake pedals, for instance. > >Because the industry is over twice as old as ours, and long ago >settled on a standard. I believe that cars have been manufactured >during my lifetime that deviated from that standard, and I know >slightly less important things meet that criteria. Some of them are >even critical controls if you live in the right place. And they vary >even if you stay with one manufacturer. For instance, have you ever >driven a car with a hydromatic transmission? > >I have no idea what the UI for an F1 car is, but I wouldn't be >surprised if it doesn't follow that arrangement. Even so, I think that Formula 1 drivers represent a small minority of all drivers. When someone says "I can drive," we don't usually assume that he's a professional racer or that he's driving large trucks. Unless the context is different, they're probably equipped to drive most passenger cars in their locale. Similarly, most people with computer experience these days are familiar with the basics of windowing environments--changing the windows focus, resizing and moving windows, etc. That's what I meant by "relevant skills." Those people who are familiar with a modern computer in some way, not those people who have to concentrate to move the pointer. > > Yeah, the other operating > > systems have got all that too *if* you're willing to learn to use it. > >Um - could you tell me how to get a paned window manager running on >any MS-Windows operating system? They're over 50% faster than framed >window managers for typical wm applications. I don't know what paned vs. framed refers to, but give me a hint and I'll see if I can quickly find a Windows-based equivalent. --Chip Morton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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