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Date:      Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:10:15 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Christopher Schulte <schulte+freebsd@nospam.schulte.org>, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip
Message-ID:  <4.3.2.7.2.20020418095356.024354c0@nospam.lariat.org>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418000849.02931cf8@pop3s.schulte.org>
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20020417230144.032ad390@nospam.lariat.org> <200204171923.g3HJNga58899@freefall.freebsd.org>

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At 11:11 PM 4/17/2002, Christopher Schulte wrote:

>You can synchronize your source tree and recompile.  See:
>
>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/synching.html

Alas, this is not an acceptable solution. 

I realize that many people use FreeBSD on non-mission-critical systems, or
to tinker with, and can afford downtime. But we need to create and maintain
production machines.
 
I hope that you can understand that doing a CVSup and then rebuilding the 
world every night (slowing the system to a crawl in the process and
creating a system which might or might not be 100% stable) is not an 
acceptable solution. Nor is downloading a random snapshot. (Which one
can't seem to do anyway these days; releng4.freebsd.org is refusing

What is needed is a known good "p3" (or "p-whatever") build that can be 
installed quickly with minimum downtime. Yet, despite the fact that 
people routinely refer to (for example) "4.5-RELEASE-p3", no such build 
seems to actually exist. For those of us who create and manage production 
servers, there should be.

--Brett Glass


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