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Date:      Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:47:31 -0400
From:      JM <jmartin37@speakeasy.net>
To:        Brian Fundakowski Feldman <green@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Niki Denev <ndenev@icdsoft.com>, Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: background fsck can be dangerous!
Message-ID:  <42C3F7F3.809@speakeasy.net>
In-Reply-To: <20050630060612.GF1074@green.homeunix.org>
References:  <200506291704.50185.ndenev@icdsoft.com>	<059901c57cb4$9a366220$7f06000a@int.mediasurface.com> <20050630060612.GF1074@green.homeunix.org>

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Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote:

>On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:12:37PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote:
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>>I've not had a single crash / power outage that background fsck has
>>been able to deal with. 90% of the time the machine will fail to even
>>boot to single user mode :(
>>    
>>
>
>You should turn write caching off on your drives.
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and in addition to that... you can enable a foreground fsck at boot 
which might be the better option if boot times aren't an issue.

>  
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>>   Steve
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Niki Denev" <ndenev@icdsoft.com>
>>
>>    
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>>>I want just to share my last experience with the combination of
>>>power failure + background fsck. After the power returned and the 
>>>machine booted, it sheduled background fsck after 60 seconds, but
>>>at this point most of the services were already started, and some of them 
>>>seemed to rely on files that were probably in unclean state before the 
>>>check.
>>>This unfortunately leaded to some lost email...after the fsck completed,
>>>everything runs ok, but i have now set background_fsck to NO in rc.conf.
>>>
>>>Here is a sad sample from my qmail log file :
>>>@4000000042c1badc24fc21cc delivery 1: 
>>>success: 
>>>/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:_Shared_object_"libpq.so.3"_not_found,_required_by_"dspam"/did_0+0+1/
>>>@4000000042c1badc24fff25c status: local 2/30 remote 0/20
>>>@4000000042c1badc250151ec delivery 4: 
>>>success: 
>>>/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:_Shared_object_"libpq.so.3"_not_found,_required_by_"dspam"/did_0+0+1/
>>>@4000000042c1badc2502bd34 status: local 1/30 remote 0/20
>>>@4000000042c1badc25050ef4 end msg 23982
>>>@4000000042c1badc2508b0a4 delivery 2: 
>>>success: 
>>>/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:_Shared_object_"libpq.so.3"_not_found,_required_by_"dspam"/did_0+0+1/
>>>@4000000042c1badc250a9cd4 status: local 0/30 remote 0/20
>>>@4000000042c1badc250c7d4c end msg 24087
>>>@4000000042c1badc2510942c end msg 24040
>>>      
>>>
>
>The filesystem looks the same before, during, and after background
>fsck runs, other than the free space information.
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