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Date:      Fri, 27 Jan 2017 12:30:17 -0500
From:      Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Toomas Soome <tsoome@me.com>
Cc:        "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Current <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: gptzfsboot grew a lot after skein support was added; need knob to control bloat
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From: Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>
To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Toomas Soome <tsoome@me.com>
Cc: "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>,
 FreeBSD Current <current@freebsd.org>
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Subject: Re: gptzfsboot grew a lot after skein support was added; need knob to
 control bloat
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On 2017-01-27 12:05, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Toomas Soome <tsoome@me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27. jaan 2017, at 1:40, Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya) <yaneurabeya@gma=
il.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>       I tried upgrading one of my workstations and unfortunately the =
freebsd-boot partition is too small (I follow manpage directions, exactly=
, and those seem to be too small as of 10.3-RELEASE timeframe), and I don=
=E2=80=99t have enough space or ability to resize the partition and make =
it bigger. So, I=E2=80=99m in need of a build knob to control the bloat, =
and/or having an alternative boot loader without geli/skein/crypto suppor=
t compiled in. Would you be opposed to the work?
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Ngie
>>
>>
>> I do agree that since the geli knob is already there, it may do. Of co=
urse we also can think of additional knobs, but there is an issue - it wo=
nt help just to exclude some files, the additional features also do sit i=
n the code, so the replacement stubs will be needed, also testing them al=
l over will take some time. And the preprocessor spaghetti really is nast=
y thing to deal with;)
>>
>> And then there is another issue (partly why I did the feature support =
in first place) - as the kernel does not block user from enabling the fea=
tures, the user can end up facing non-bootable setup which is also not go=
od, as user is using perfectly legal options, and still the whole thing i=
s just rendered unusable=E2=80=A6
>=20
> I'm curious why you can't find the space for a bigger partition?
> Almost all drives these days are partitioned with a little wasted
> space, and that wasted space should be more than enough to cover us
> here. Also, most drives have a swap partition that can be shrunk a
> trivial amount to get space for this...
>=20
> Warner
>=20

I need to do some testing to make a recipe that works for it, but the
other option is to use the ZFS bootcode area.

ZFS it self, reserves something like 3.5 mb of space in the ZFS
partition, for boot code. This is how we boot ZFS on MBR.

It should be possible to use this on GPT as well, we just don't.


--=20
Allan Jude


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