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Date:      Sat, 12 May 2007 21:45:02 +0200
From:      "[LoN]Kamikaze" <LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de>
To:        Stephen Montgomery-Smith <stephen@math.missouri.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Time to abandon recursive pulling of dependencies?
Message-ID:  <4646193E.5040503@gmx.de>
In-Reply-To: <20070512133054.B5588@math.missouri.edu>
References:  <464597C6.3030406@gmx.de> <20070512174011.GA22526@xor.obsecurity.org> <4645FF71.60100@gmx.de> <20070512175824.GA23103@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070512133054.B5588@math.missouri.edu>

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Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 12 May 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 07:54:57PM +0200, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>>> On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 12:32:38PM +0200, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
>>>>> With Xorg updated to 7.2 many ports take much longer to register than
>>>>> to download, build and install. I think it's time to abandon the
>>>>> recursive pulling in of dependencies.
>>>>
>>>> I think that before you abandon something you should first understand
>>>> it.  Figure out what is taking so long to register the port and then
>>>> work out whether it can be optimized.
>>>
>>> What takes so long in my opinion, is that not only the dependencies are
>>> registered as dependencies, but that the dependencies of dependencies
>>> are also
>>> registered as dependencies and so forth. Since all the commands
>>> supplied by
>>> ports walk dependencies recursively, as well as tools like
>>> portupgrade, this
>>> is unnecessary (that is, assuming that I understood bsd.port.mk
>>> correctly).
>>>
>>> To abandon this behaviour would in my opinion only have advantages.
>>
>> Go and substantiate your opinion with some facts, then we'll talk.
> 
> I've done a little poking around.  As of right now, I think that the
> registering takes a huge amount of time inside of a function called
> "sortdeps" which may be found in /usr/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/lib/deps.c.
> 
> Stephen
> 

Thank you for looking into this. I was expecting to have to make experminental
patches for the pkg tools as well as in bsd.port.mk to back my opinion. However
I wouldn't have been able to start earlier than two weeks from now. And before
that I want to look into some acpi_ibm and psm regressions I'm experiencing
with stable.



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