Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:30:47 -0500 From: Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org> To: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> Cc: Boris Samorodov <bsam@ipt.ru>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working! Message-ID: <478D09E7.5020609@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <20080115103304.us4jtiziec44o8c0@webmail.leidinger.net> References: <64c038660801040516u5c42a6cpadb475ad67fb4730@mail.gmail.com> <20080104174955.52aa33fd@gumby.homeunix.com> <64c038660801041029t1a9662bayed3ca02fd46c7ece@mail.gmail.com> <64c038660801041226k1d350bc6p727e4666ea295727@mail.gmail.com> <477FFE14.1010704@monkeybrains.net> <477FFF63.50004@gmail.com> <47801D54.8050709@gmail.com> <47803E3F.2080005@monkeybrains.net> <47804901.6090007@gmail.com> <4786BF45.8030602@monkeybrains.net> <4786CEDC.3050009@chuckr.org> <20080111170711.t6wxj1bc68cgwwk4@webmail.leidinger.net> <4787E597.9040902@chuckr.org> <40077827@bb.ipt.ru> <478BC152.8060200@chuckr.org> <20080115103304.us4jtiziec44o8c0@webmail.leidinger.net>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org> (from Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:08:50 > -0500): > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Boris Samorodov wrote: >>> Hello Chuck, >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:54:31 -0500 Chuck Robey wrote: >>> >>>> As an example, the >>>> flash9 plugin needed a linux lib, libdl.so (I think it was .so.2). >>>> If I >>> >>> I wrote the port which installs libdl.so.2, so I guess I should >>> respond... >>> >>>> wanted to be complete, it really needed about twenty different >>>> libraries, >>>> but libdl.so will serve as an example well enough). It had been >>>> installed >>>> in some subdir of /usr/local/lib. >>> >>> Are you sure that you didn't use some non-default paths to install a >>> linux_base port? I'm asking the question because: >>> ----- >>> % locate libdl.so >>> /usr/compat/linux/lib/libdl.so.2 >>> % pkg_info -W /compat/linux/lib/libdl.so.2 >>> /compat/linux/lib/libdl.so.2 was installed by package linux_base-fc-4_10 >>> ----- >> >> I'm a little behind in answering my mail, I hope I didn't keep you >> waiting >> too long. Yeah, you're right, you had it right. If and when I >> finally get >> ports-management to comment on my thesis, and IF they finally agree with >> me, I guess I'm going to be forced to completely zero out my entire >> system >> (damn, what a PITA) and get things fixed right from the beginning. Back >> some years back, when I was very active in ports last, I had to >> maintain my >> system in an extremely "clean" status, because otherwise, one can never >> really guarantee that what builds fine one your system won't break on >> everyone else's. >> >> Anyhow, I said I made no effort to record what I did, and if in this >> case >> I misremembered, please don't take it as an insult to your work, which >> does >> look like you did a fine job of it. This, at least, is one port that >> DOES >> do things as I would have them. > > _All_ pure infrastructure ports install into LINUXBASE. Just so I have an example of things doing the install badly (I mean here, as I define badly, mreans not using /compat), I just checked the very first linux browser I found in /usr/ports/www, that's linux-firefox, and it does it badly, using /usr/local only. I was wrong in pulling yours out of my heaad (altho, in my own defense, I prefaced it with "I think it was", because I wasn't sure. Didn't realize you would take it as an insult, and sure didn't mena it thast way. I just want to eliminate all ports installing Linux type things outside of /compat/linux. There are just so many reasons that it's bad news (see other mail, I won't repeat it all over again here). This is not a > "nice to have"-style requirement, it is a _hard_ requirement. Anyone > violating this gets a slap on the hand from me as sonn as I discover it. > So in case you talk about ports which only install libs and they are not > in LINUXBASE, I would say your system is fucked up It's not "fucked up", I just gave a hard example of one that definitely does it bad. I was wrong in misremembering you, not wrong in misremembering the action. Go check that yourself, sir. There are indeed many Linux ports that stick there stuff in /usr/local. and you should > install from scratch to have a good basis for discussion. So far you > just point fingers in a generic direction without giving hard facts. A > lot of this finger pointing is for libs, as far as I understand your > posts. So please, install a clean system and tell us about concrete port > names. Hard facts are a good base to talk about, the "oh, I don't > remember what I did but my current setup is not satisfying" is leading > nowhere. > >> The only way I'm going to get things to be for certain, it's to start >> over >> from the beginning, and this time follow the procedures that any serious >> porter (such as you) already knows by heart. I'm not going to try to >> repeat all that here. > > I reply to your other mail later when I have more time. It is big and I > have to write some things there. > > Bye, > Alexander. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHjQnmz62J6PPcoOkRAsASAJ4mMxo/80qUNKKttzjWOn91/dY8rwCfbkps PoyKLFdTyWOhSjghgC3FTTQ= =nTaE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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