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Date:      Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:13:56 -0700
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Volker <volker@vwsoft.com>
Cc:        Antony Mawer <fbsd-current@mawer.org>, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: "legacy" usb stack fixes
Message-ID:  <48C97C04.6030603@elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <48C97ACA.70307@vwsoft.com>
References:  <20080819211814.6CD685B4D@mail.bitblocks.com>	<48B0EA50.2090105@mawer.org> <48B3299F.5080101@vwsoft.com>	<200809111013.23994.hselasky@c2i.net> <48C97ACA.70307@vwsoft.com>

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Volker wrote:
> On 09/11/08 10:13, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
>> On Monday 25 August 2008, Volker wrote:
>>> Anyway, I've already had those crashes even with the "new" usb stack
>>> (but it doesn't happen everytime - YMMV).
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I also see crashes with my new stuff and the umass driver when the USB device 
>> is un-plugged too early. The backtraces I've got so far does not indicate a 
>> USB problem, though ....
>>
>> --HPS
>>
> 
> // dropped current@ from CC
> 
> Hans Petter,
> 
> the device unplug problem is not just with usb, but these devices are
> the most frequent unplugged devices so far.
> 
> Early this week, I discovered a new problem. I've fetched fresh RELENG_7
> sources, patched your usb stack in and recompiled kernel (using usb, not
> usb2).
> 
> I've seen situations with a process holding open file descriptors for a
> ugen device being killed but a thread was still hanging in "usbdrain"
> state (sleeping on a mutex for draining). The process is still holding
> open file descriptors (I see output from ``fstat | grep ugen'' listing
> the already killed process), even while the process itself is already
> killed and not in the process list as a whole.
> 
> Only a thread of that former process can be seen by ``ps -alxcH'', but
> it can't be killed.

what is the thread waiting on?

> 
> I'm pretty sure I'm able to patch kern_exit.c to have that process being
> freed completely but I'm also pretty sure, this will just kill a symptom
> but not the source. While in that situation, the usb port does not react
> to plug/unplug events anymore.
> 
> I haven't been able to debug that situation as I do have too much stress
> at other places as well. Probably I'll find the time tomorrow for debugging.
> 
> BTW, can you give a quick explanation about usb2? What's different,
> better? What needs to be done at the driver side to port something over
> to usb2?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Volker
> 
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