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Date:      Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:07:34 +0200
From:      Manolis Kiagias <sonic2000gr@gmail.com>
To:        Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Murray Stokely <murray@stokely.org>
Subject:   Re: Cutting edge -> Upgrading
Message-ID:  <494A9F76.2020401@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20081217232207.53615962.trhodes@FreeBSD.org>
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Tom Rhodes wrote:
> Hi Murray, Manolis,
>
>
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:35:51 -0800
> "Murray Stokely" <murray@stokely.org> wrote:
>
>   
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Manolis Kiagias <sonic2000gr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> If these chapters are merged, I think we will have to rethink the "The
>>> Cutting Edge" title. The title is by itself intimidating for the
>>> beginning-intermediate user who is already convinced it is best for him
>>> to use "RELEASE" until he is comfortable with the system. And using
>>> freebsd-update is essential (and a rather easy task) at any user level.
>>>
>>> How about changing the chapter to something like "Updating and Upgrading
>>> FreeBSD"?
>>> The first sections could deal with security updates and minor / major
>>> version upgrades using freebsd-update.
>>> Later sections could deal with -STABLE and -CURRENT
>>> It would probably need more than a few rewrites and reorganization though
>>>       
>> Yea I think this sounds good.  Tom, can you include a link to the HTML
>> with your next diff -- I find it easier to review big reorganizations
>> in the built html form rather than the diffs.
>>
>> If there is really just too much content for one chapter then maybe
>> the updating and upgrading chapter could still be split into two
>> adjacent chapters -- one for the basics of updrading between releases
>> with mergemaster and such, and a second with more complicated source
>> upgrades to -CURRENT.
>>
>>           - Murray
>>
>>     
>
> Apologies for this tardy reply, but I've recently come down
> with some kind of a bug.  Anyway, this is what I have right now:
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~trhodes/doc/latest-handbook.diff
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~trhodes/doc/handbook/
>
> The diff contains my Updating chapter placed above the current
> cutting-edge content along with some alterations to make the
> documentation flow a bit.  Surely another update or two will
> be needed to perfect this version, but I think it looks pretty
> decent as it is now.
>
>   
Thanks Tom, this is more or less what I had in mind for the
updating-upgrading chapter :)
Having read the synopsis, I feel we need to change it a bit so it
matches more closely the updated content.
Something like this:

http://people.freebsd.org/~manolis/updating-upgrading.html#UPDATING-UPGRADING-SYNOPSIS

and the patch:

http://people.freebsd.org/~manolis/cutting-edge.txt

Basically this rephrases the original <para> a bit, and also reorders
the itemized list to more or less match the order the info is presented
in the chapter. Feel free to change it as you see fit ;)

Thanks,
manolis



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