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Date:      Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:02:57 +0200
From:      Timo Schoeler <timo.schoeler@riscworks.net>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org
Subject:   Re: Open Vs Free BSD
Message-ID:  <4A3B7E71.5000003@riscworks.net>
In-Reply-To: <f663ee356bc7ad36ab5c63c0a4693f89.squirrel@www.thephinix.org>
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thus demuel@thephinix.org spake:
> Oh why can't this versus this versus that never dies? There had been
> raging debate about which OSes is much better compared to the others since
> time immemorial. Sure, each one has its own merits over the others and
> vice versa. 

Exactly.

> So why feeding this issue up since up to this very moment,
> there is no winner.

The solution is very easy, IMHO... I have been quite 'radical' WRT the 
OS I chose to use in the past. I ran/run all, i.e. Net/Open/FreeBSD and 
DragonFly, among others. I took part in the BSD vs. GNU discussion in 
the past. But what I learnt during the years is this:

* There's always a 'best choice' for the job. On the load balancer I 
choose OpenBSD, and on my GFs computer I install Ubuntu. Vice versa 
would not work.

* Life's to short for those narrow-headed discussions.

Timo

>> and the security is in netbsd:
>>
>>  http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?security+8+NetBSD-5.0
>>  http://www.netbsd.org/~elad/recent/recent06.pdf
>>
>> On 6/19/09, Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> Kim Attree wrote:
>>>
>>>> NetBSD runs on just about anything. That's it's primary goal. Since I
>>>> don't
>>>> have any weird hardware, I've never had a use for NetBSD.
>>> I don't use NetBSD either but some recent development that come from
>>> that camp are very interesting:
>>>
>>> * Journalling UFS ("smart" journalling, not gjournal)
>>> * PUFFS (BSD implementation of FUSE-like system [file system in
>>> userland])
>>> * They had Xen dom0 and domU for years
>>> * They are starting to show decent results in SMP support, including a
>>> new scheduler (a bit similar to ULE); their GENERIC has SMP included
>>> * Possibly superpages, I'm not sure how to parse "Merged amd64 and i386
>>> pmap. Large pages are always used if available"
>>> * I think they are working on their own ZFS port
>>> * They have ported or reimplemented Linux LVM (read+write+admin)
>>>
>>> There are of course other things; see for example
>>> http://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal-5/NetBSD-5.0.html
>>>
>>> I have a feeling the project has been revitalized in the last few years.




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