Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:20:13 +0200 From: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). Message-ID: <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon>
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Am 13.09.2011 21:27, schrieb Michal Varga: > Though if I had to pick a random case again, it probably wouldn't be too > hard to make some wildly unsubstantiated guesses: > > ## From: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> > ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) "Wildly unsubstantiated" pretty much nails it. The thing you can see from a second look into ports/ is that FreeBSD's ports Thunderbird is up to date, unlike my Thunderbird 3.1 on Linux. Now what? Nothing proven. :) > Still I thank everyone for polite replies which were actually a welcome > change for this kind of threads, but as there is obviously something > fundamentally different between how I and rest of you guys perceive an > actually working FreeBSD (or any other, for the matter) workstation, I'm > going to let it go, this is not the kind fight one would be able to win > in any case. And our working desktops don't help you in the least in getting one too. I have gotten myself into situations where I mutilated my installation, to the point where X or some Desktop wouldn't start, and random applications crashed -- and the cause was usually taking short cuts or not noticing ports/UPDATING; more importantly, there are tools that can help avoid and/or fix that situation. For one, I'd start with ports-mgmt/portmaster to run portmaster --check-depends, and after that install */bsdadminscripts and run pkg_libchk and see what it comes up with in packages that want to be rebuilt in order to pull in up-to-date libraries. > For the next years, I'll be much better off with finishing my migration > to another system where the base OS will hardly ever be as good and > clean as FreeBSD, but the overall quality of 24/7 ready, stable, modern > desktop OS as a whole is by far too wide margin different from what I > gather is currently considered 'acceptable' here, in FreeBSD (ports) > circles. No offense meant, in any case. I think you mentioned Arch Linux, further suggestions would be Gentoo Linux (you might like emerge), and further options are Debian GNU/kFreeBSD and using a FreeBSD base system with pkgsrc (rather than ports) on top. Good luck in finding the system that really has fewer, rather than only different, quirks. :)
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