Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 19:22:15 +0100 From: David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why was nslookup removed from FreeBSD 10? Message-ID: <52E55257.6030901@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk> References: <52E40CC4.6090401@fjl.co.uk> <201401252137.50132.mark.tinka@seacom.mu> <52E41619.1000505@fjl.co.uk>
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On 25/01/2014 20:52, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 25/01/2014 19:37, Mark Tinka wrote: >> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 09:13:08 PM Frank Leonhardt >> wrote: >> >>> Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that >>> removing nslookup from the base system was the way to >>> go. >>> >>> Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was >>> made? >> If you read: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html >> >> Under the "2.3. Userland Changes" section, you will notice: >> >> "BIND has been removed from the base system. >> unbound(8), which is maintained by NLnet Labs, has >> been imported to support local DNS resolution >> functionality with DNSSEC. Note that it is not a >> replacement of BIND and the latest versions of BIND >> is still available in the Ports Collection. With >> this change, nslookup and dig are no longer a part >> of the base system. Users should instead use >> host(1) and drill(1) Alternatively, nslookup and >> dig can be obtained by installing dns/bind-tools >> port. [r255949]" >> >> So install /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools and you're a happy guy. >> >> As to the philosophy of it all, no point arguing. Fait >> accompli. >> >> Mark. > As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as I > said in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is "host" and > that's still there. Also Windoze has nslookup but doesn't include BIND. > I agree there's no point arguing unless you know the rational behind > what appears an arbitrary decision; hence my question. Was this simply > an oversight or is there a thought-out reason for it that one can take > issue with? > > IIRC, nslookup was present in 4.3BSD, and I'm pretty sure it existed > before that. (That's BSD, not FreeBSD). Its relied on in scripts. The > reason for dropping it from the base system must be pretty spectacular. > > FreeBSD 10.0 might be better known as FreeBSD Vista, at this rate. > > Regards, Frank. > Please don't piss off, there was thousands of reasons for removing BIND from base. It generates at least 5 security advisories by year. FreeBSD has a great feature called "ports" / "packages". Of course it's always great to have a fully functional system just after an installation. But can you seriously use a FreeBSD fresh install? I think you need to install a bunch of packages before :-). So just a pkg install bind-tools is not so hard, isn't it? Regards, David.
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