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Date:      Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:21:47 -0500
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ZFS unable to import pool
Message-ID:  <5357CC7B.2090003@denninger.net>
In-Reply-To: <FC0D5991-8F8D-41D5-BB50-AB840C29F362@icloud.com>
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Probably not.

You can try importing it read-only but if it refuses that then you're=20
screwed. The reason is that ZFS spreads data in a given file around and=20
as such it's likely that bits of various files are interspersed into the =

missing device, so a huge percentage of the files on the volume are in=20
fact damaged and unusable.

/*Filesystem based "redundancy" is not a backup strategy!*/

On 4/23/2014 9:19 AM, Gennadiy Gulchin wrote:
> Any data can be salvaged?
>
> --Gena
>
>> On Apr 23, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@mail.turbofuzz.com> w=
rote:
>>
>> If you added a single disk to a pool, you have no choice but to destro=
y the pool and start over.  The single disk will essentially degrade the =
performance of the whole pool, because it represents a unique (100Mb/sec,=
 typical) transaction group now, and if you lose that one disk you will a=
lso lose the entire pool since it has no redundancy.
>>
>> This is a common mistake people make with ZFS, and it sucks, but block=
 pointer rewrite was never implemented so that=92s just the way it is, to=
o.  That=92s another reason for FreeBSD-based front-ends to ZFS like Free=
NAS.  The GUI adds some seat-belts to prevent users from trivially doing =
things like that.  On the command line, all bets are off.
>>
>> - Jordan
>>
>>> On Apr 23, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Gena Guchin <ggulchin@icloud.com> wrote:=

>>>
>>> Looking though the history, i DID add that disk ada7 (!) to the pool,=
 but I added it as a separate disk. I wanted to re-add the disk to the st=
orage pool, but it added as a new disk=85
>>> this does help a lille..
>>>
>>>
>>> anything I can do now?
>>> can I remove that vdev?
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-- Karl
karl@denninger.net


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