Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 13:40:12 +0300 From: Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <5406F00C.6090504@digsys.bg> In-Reply-To: <5406ED34.7090301@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <CAOFF%2BZ1MOr9-rYbwHYWqBKjMvRPwUnew4jThEoJ_WkoTmwyNsQ@mail.gmail.com> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <CAF-3MvNBWSEWF-HarwF0xcXQgo=7-dO%2BtvLMO1maELPY0RVhQQ@mail.gmail.com> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> <5406BD65.705@digsys.bg> <5406ED34.7090301@sorbs.net>
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On 03.09.14 13:28, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > >> We will have to live with it. WhateverHat is not better. > I can't comment on that - the entire org runs *Hat, I've spent the last > 3 years showing the benefits of *BSD and now I feel completely betrayed > because there is no chance of them changing, "You see it's not an > Enterprise OS"... FreeBSD is a toolkit, not a "product" (ok, it's a product if you look for toolkit). It is an very good toolkit to build UNIX-like systems and many enterprises use it. Some do wonders with it, some, disasters. As with any good toolkit, there is an entire ecosystem for support built around it. FreeBSD also works out of the box but we are clearly not discussing this here. I understand your effort and frustration -- everyone who has dealt with BSD UNIX has come to face it -- the media was instructed to praise/blame Linux (out of topic why) and the mainstream "me too" crowd is embracing it easier.. When most of the people who come to interviews answer "I know Windows or Linux" your management does not have much choice. Back in their days of glory, Cisco had very interesting marketing strategy: "Never compete with anyone head to head -- the other party can always optimize for the bench case. Instead, work with the user to build and list of their requirements... and at the end see your product is the only one that matches". Helps :) Daniel
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