Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 13:06:16 -0500 From: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd Message-ID: <5a5c40af-ad82-1343-b83a-4dee2999cfdc@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20200611195744.5d4f9450.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <62d10000-e068-922e-23bd-f7a61e7a4e89@anatoli.ws> <ACE27C81-9437-41D6-BBD4-FA7A7B791428@kicp.uchicago.edu> <6a4f6a15-ec43-03f6-1a41-a109e445f026@anatoli.ws> <f667e8f9-b279-a3ce-3fc4-224ba17f4bbb@kicp.uchicago.edu> <00225a04-237d-9051-9aea-12c192106a20@anatoli.ws> <373EDB20-C750-42E2-A41B-EA61F6E49807@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200609120136.00005b3c@seibercom.net> <2393a1e0-b073-950a-78be-9f57d8e9934b@anatoli.ws> <e1f6623a-3b3c-a43e-446a-d41f20f69418@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200610063555.00003707@seibercom.net> <82F57D0D-E0EC-49F7-824E-20A296C9F549@kicp.uchicago.edu> <250b853a-b436-0e99-b05c-9abd6b6019ef@panix.com> <20200611070630.2cb42786.freebsd@edvax.de> <EA869B95-9D98-4ECC-9371-C57A0035BC32@kreme.com> <20200611075658.1dd841a9.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200611082443.0000187a@seibercom.net> <20200611145046.6edffaf3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200611132951.000058cd@seibercom.net> <20200611195744.5d4f9450.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On 2020-06-11 12:57, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 13:29:51 -0400, Jerry wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 14:50:46 +0200, Polytropon commented: >> >> [[Extraneous contend truncated]] >> >>>> Claws-Mail allows a user to create custom folders with predefined >>>> "To:". "CC:" and "Reply-To:" fields, among others. That totally >>>> eliminates all the guess work, assuming the end-user bothered to >>>> properly configure it. >>> >>> Nobody configures MUAs these days. In a web-driven world, >>> users tend to keep using the defaults of the provider. >>> The same applies to application MUAs where the defaults >>> aren't checked and adjusted to match real use cases. >> >> Well then, Poly, I must be Mr. Nobody, because I always at least look >> at, and usually actually do modify default configurations to suit my >> particular work habits. > > All of us - _we_ are Mr. Nobody - an insignificant part of > email users who use the right tools in a proper way. But > that does not apply for the majority of smartphone and web > users who take everything "as is", and even if given the > chance to make the software work better for their individual > needs and habits, they just accept their fate. This has > lead to less flexible software, i. e., you cannot change > certain aspects anymore and _have_ to accept them, either > because no user ever asked for it, or because developers > never thought of users maybe wanting to do things in a > different way. > > A common misconception seen in offices is that the existing > software, by poor defaults, decides how processes should be > designed and implemented, instead of leaving that important > task to real humans, and support those processes instead. I > think that is what people call "software-oriented architecture", > SOA: The humanware has to adjust to the software to pay for > renting the hardware. :-) > > > >> To bring this whole conversation to a quick end, whenever I send a >> document to someone that absolutely, positively has to look exactly how >> I created it, I use PDF. It eliminates all the problems that you and >> others have been describing. Email, at least in my estimation, was never >> intended to be used a a means of conveying high level, complex >> mathematical formulas, etcetera. > > If you want pixel-perfect, PDF is probably the best way > to go, I disagree, in case of pixel-perfect it will be image and image only. Not PDF. Some people when they create PDFs, do not embed all fonts specified in the document, and on another person's side these fonts may be replaced with what is found on that person's machine. That's sometimes what I have to explain to my users when they show me garbled PDF sent to them by somebody else. Valeri > even though it opens a new bag of problems (specific > to PDF and their distribution). > > Email has its place as a means of asynchronous (!) and > versatile communication. It's not a "one size fits all", > and never was, but what is? > > > >> Bart |^^^^^^^^| >> Raven | | >> | | >> | | >> | _ _, .---------------. >> | (.).) | | >> | .-^--_ | EAT MY SHORTS ! | >> \ ' _____) | | >> | \ (__ /_-----------------' >> / -__/ >> / \ >> / / . | >> / / / | >> / \ / ' >> / \ / / >> / . / >> / / X / >> / / / |--| |____ >> \/\_/ |--| ----. >> / |\ \----' >> / /| | \ \ >> `_/_|_. `- > > Sprach der Rabe: "Meck meck meck!" > > > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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