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Date:      Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:24:46 +0100
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Brian Feldman <green@unixhelp.org>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: wanton Atticizing is bad 
Message-ID:  <68606.914783086@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:03:37 EST." <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812271249290.6613-100000@janus.syracuse.net> 

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In message <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812271249290.6613-100000@janus.syracuse.net>, Brian 
Feldman writes:
>On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> And >>>ONLY<<< if somebody feels strongly enough about some of
>> this, to go and actively maintain it, is reintroduction open to
>> discussion
>
>Even with timidity, there should DEFINITELY be an OPL/3 driver. I would like to
>take over the VoxWare driver.

Then go for it!

For sound, try to work with Luigi so that we only have one sound system.

>> 	IPFILTER
>
>Wasn't this _just_recently_ committed? Why commit it in the first place if
>noone really wants it? Personally, I use IPFW.

Yeah, the jury is still out on this one...  Any users out there ?

>> 	mse
>
>IIRC I've seen people who used this.

well, lets hear it from them then...

>> 	lpt (ppbus will be standard)
>
>Good, and (you should) make the change in GENERIC. Ppbus works exceptionally
>well, lpt is really deprecated.

There is some outstanding hacks missing for PLIP, but otherwise yes.

>What was the reasoning behind ft though?

It's badly implemented and many capable persons have failed to find a
way to solve the rather serious problems it suffers from.  ATAPI tapes
seems to be the way of the future for cheap tapes.

Any scheme asking users permission for removal will always prevent even
the slightest weeding out.  The criteria needs to be on maintenance
status, since money cannot be used as a gauge.

--
Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
"ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal

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