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Date:      Thu, 3 Jan 2019 20:18:06 +0000
From:      Mark Blackman <mark@exonetric.com>
To:        Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk>
Cc:        Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, Hackers freeBSD <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components
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> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:32, Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk> =
wrote:
>=20
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 16:26, Enji Cooper wrote:
>=20
> <snip>
>=20
>> PS let=E2=80=99s call the discussion mostly closed and start working =
on prototypes instead of beating a dead horse further.
>=20
>=20
> That's precisely how ideas that most people disagree with get *pushed*
> through by evangelists with confirmation bias! Like someone said
> earlier in the discussion: does Rust add anything? The answer is a
> resounding NO, save for bloat.

Technically, I thought it was clear what Rust adds and that is =
=E2=80=9Csafety=E2=80=9D, the cost of that =E2=80=9Csafety=E2=80=9D and =
the comprehensiveness of that =E2=80=9Csafety=E2=80=9D are debatable,=20
but the proposed benefit seemed pretty clear to me

- Mark=



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